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Caster Semenya considering running for president of World Athletics

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zibzibara · 10/08/2024 18:48

https://x.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1822200512537641020

A master class in gaslighting on display from male athlete Caster Semenya, who just announced that he is considering running for president of World Athletics - a regulatory body which disqualified him from competing against women - because, as he says, the "worst part" is that sports are "regulated by men".

Semenya was one of three male athletes with DSDs (differences of sexual development) to cheat women out of a medal at the 2016 Rio Olympics 800m. Not a single woman placed in that event in their own category.During a 20-minute interview with German outlet ARD this week, Semenya, who is a male with internal testes (46 XY 5-ARD) stated his support for male boxers Imane Khelif and Lin Yu Ting.

He also made several outrageous statements, such as:

- Women who oppose his participation in female sports are just expressing an "opinion"

- Testosterone has no affect on his athletic performance

- Sports are never fair

- People should respect Semenya because he comes from an "enslaved continent"

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Zita60 · 13/08/2024 05:14

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2024 08:39

World Athletics is headed by a president. The World Athletics Council has a total of 26 elected members, comprising one president, four vice-presidents (one senior), the presidents of the six area associations, two members of the Athletes' Commission and 13 Council members. Each member of the Council is elected for a four-year period by the World Athletics Congress, a biennial gathering of athletics officials that consists of the Council, Honorary Members, and up to three delegates from each of the national member federations. Chairpersons and members of Committees, which manage specialist portfolios, are also elected by the Congress. There are four committees: the Cross Country Committee, the Race Walking Committee, the Technical Committee, and the Women's Committee. A further three committees were launched in 2019: Development, Governance and Competitions. The governance structure is outlined in the World Athletics Constitution, which may be amended by the Congress.

And

In order to give active athletes a voice in the governance of the sport, World Athletics created the Athletes' Commission. Athletes are elected to the commission by other athletes, typically held at the Congress attached to the World Athletics Championships. The commission chairperson and one other athlete of the opposite sex are given voting rights on the Council. The last election was held in October 2019 at the 2019 World Athletics Championships.

Following doping and corruption issues, a Code of Ethics was agreed in 2013 and an Ethics Commission was appointed in 2014. The Council appoints the chairperson from the elected members, and in turn, the chairperson appoints a deputy chair. The Ethics Board's scope was limited in 2017 with the creation of the independent Athletics Integrity Unit, headed by Australia's Brett Clothier, to oversee ethical issues and complaints at arm's length.

So Caster Semenya thinks they can come in at the bottom without any political experience, get elected immediately right to the top by the various members. And then not come into immediate direct conflict with the athletes themselves, who have a deliberately balanced voice for males and females. And is willing to come into direct conflict with the independent group which deals with ethics in world athletics.

Yeah ok. In your own head Caster.

Meanwhile on planet earth everyone can see the size of your ego and unsuitability for the job..

This doesn't look like a massive chip on the shoulder and an epic tantrum at all.

Thank you. That sounds reassuring. As you say, it’s pretty unlikely he’ll jump straight into being elected president.

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2024 08:39

World Athletics is headed by a president. The World Athletics Council has a total of 26 elected members, comprising one president, four vice-presidents (one senior), the presidents of the six area associations, two members of the Athletes' Commission and 13 Council members. Each member of the Council is elected for a four-year period by the World Athletics Congress, a biennial gathering of athletics officials that consists of the Council, Honorary Members, and up to three delegates from each of the national member federations. Chairpersons and members of Committees, which manage specialist portfolios, are also elected by the Congress. There are four committees: the Cross Country Committee, the Race Walking Committee, the Technical Committee, and the Women's Committee. A further three committees were launched in 2019: Development, Governance and Competitions. The governance structure is outlined in the World Athletics Constitution, which may be amended by the Congress.

And

In order to give active athletes a voice in the governance of the sport, World Athletics created the Athletes' Commission. Athletes are elected to the commission by other athletes, typically held at the Congress attached to the World Athletics Championships. The commission chairperson and one other athlete of the opposite sex are given voting rights on the Council. The last election was held in October 2019 at the 2019 World Athletics Championships.

Following doping and corruption issues, a Code of Ethics was agreed in 2013 and an Ethics Commission was appointed in 2014. The Council appoints the chairperson from the elected members, and in turn, the chairperson appoints a deputy chair. The Ethics Board's scope was limited in 2017 with the creation of the independent Athletics Integrity Unit, headed by Australia's Brett Clothier, to oversee ethical issues and complaints at arm's length.

So Caster Semenya thinks they can come in at the bottom without any political experience, get elected immediately right to the top by the various members. And then not come into immediate direct conflict with the athletes themselves, who have a deliberately balanced voice for males and females. And is willing to come into direct conflict with the independent group which deals with ethics in world athletics.

Yeah ok. In your own head Caster.

Meanwhile on planet earth everyone can see the size of your ego and unsuitability for the job..

This doesn't look like a massive chip on the shoulder and an epic tantrum at all.

MrGHardy · 12/08/2024 08:33

- Testosterone has no affect on his athletic performance

So why did he cry about having to lower his testosterone (before they, World Athletics, changed the rule again to exclude anyone who underwent male puberty, rather than having some arbitrary, far too high testosterone ceiling that the IOC for god knows why still uses and is likely the reason they allow Khelif to participate because Khelif is keeping his testosterone below that limit. It wasn't sourced but I read that Khelif's coach had an independent test in Paris done in 2023 after the IBA disqualification and that's where they learned of it and are keeping to under the IOC limit, again, not sourced but explains why Khelif never claims to not be DSD, just to be a woman).

SinnerBoy · 12/08/2024 03:31

So, his gonads don't make him less of a woman? What about his disparagement of women, of his othering of women? Is that a typically womanly trait? Or is he just a woman when it's expedient and a not woman when that's expedient?

Help me out here, I'm confused! So many contradictions.

TempestTost · 11/08/2024 22:48

I'm not sure CS has the brains to do a job like that, tbh. He's not that savvy. I don't say that to be mean at all, some people are not academically bright and there's nothing wrong with that. But apart from the rest I just don't see that role as a good fit.

duc748 · 11/08/2024 18:36

spannasaurus · 11/08/2024 14:32

When it's no longer financially expedient to be a different type of woman I would not be surprised if CS changes the narrative to how CS was exploited and persuaded by various athletic bodies in to believing she was a woman and now accepts the truth that he is a male with a dsd.

Indeed, and wouldn't be surprised to see Khelif go down the same path.

spannasaurus · 11/08/2024 14:32

When it's no longer financially expedient to be a different type of woman I would not be surprised if CS changes the narrative to how CS was exploited and persuaded by various athletic bodies in to believing she was a woman and now accepts the truth that he is a male with a dsd.

highame · 11/08/2024 08:25

The end of women's sport, just lots of people with dsd competing. At least that'll be fair, because many will be from enslaved continents. Hey Ho!

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/08/2024 07:06

He does seem to be morphing into a 'professional DSD suffer' doesn't he.

Catsmere · 10/08/2024 22:51

Another narcissistic male cheat, one among so many trying to force women out of public life.

KohlaParasaurus · 10/08/2024 21:34

io Saturnalia!

Zita60 · 10/08/2024 21:30

If Semenya succeeds, women’s athletics will be completely screwed.

lonelywater · 10/08/2024 20:00

FrippEnos · 10/08/2024 19:52

That is good news.
It would be good if Coe could get in but I am not going to hold my breath.

Me neither. Coe is pretty sensible and clearly comes from planet earth. Dont fancy his chances in the bizzaro world of the IOC.

FrippEnos · 10/08/2024 19:52

Helleofabore · 10/08/2024 19:22

And apparently Bach is not running to extend his tenure next year.

https://x.com/seaningle/status/1822320766177710390?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

That is good news.
It would be good if Coe could get in but I am not going to hold my breath.

WomaninBoots · 10/08/2024 19:24

I can't believe I felt sorry for this man when it all first kicked off. FFS. The more we see of him the more it is obvious,or seems so to me, that he knows exactly what he's doing and is enjoying it.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 10/08/2024 19:05

Oh please!
Just stop now.

Helleofabore · 10/08/2024 19:05

zibzibara · 10/08/2024 18:49

This is absurd.

Yes. It is. It is the very masterclass in gaslighting. A pity that some people will believe it.

ditalini · 10/08/2024 19:01

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MrsTerryPratchett · 10/08/2024 19:01

The idea is that we will now have two categories: men's and open. Instead of the really obvious solutions of two categories; women's and open.

For some reason...

MissyB1 · 10/08/2024 19:00

He's desperate for attention.

GrumpyPanda · 10/08/2024 18:59

You missed the infamous recent "my testicles make me no less of a woman" clip.

PoshCoffee · 10/08/2024 18:59

Hahaha. Bless. What’s that saying? Give me the confidence of a mediocre man? Something like that.

Truthlikeness · 10/08/2024 18:57

yawn

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