Thread 4: TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”

Unfortunately images can be manipulated. While I have no doubt Imane is a man, I’m reluctant to trust those images.
Video is a bit different.

@nauticant "In the present case the IOC have barely kept a lid on things even with the media being significantly on board."

Indeed. And isn't it really really scary that the media have been "significantly on board". The media are always accused of bias and that's fine - I don't expect the Guardian to run lots of stories about right wing issues and I know what to expect if I read the Daily Mail. But they at least try to represent their readership, even when they're goading them on with click bate and inciting ever more extreme views with their content.

But when the ALL of the mainstream media completely disengage with the views of the majority of the population and present misinformation as fact, we are heading down a very scary path.

I mean, has anyone seen a mainstream media article (which isn't an opinion piece) which actually reports the blindingly obvious and unequivocal fact that these two boxers are men?

There is something maddening and disorientating and awful about watching an obvious man fighting in the women's category, and having the male BBC commentators criticising the woman for not being able to beat him, praising him to the skies, and constantly referring to him as she and "the woman in red" and "the first female Algerian boxer to win".

It's like having someone with state sanctioned authority tell you that grass is yellow, except much much worse, because it highlights how utterly precarious our position in society is.

Crikey. That's the first time I've seen those photos! How clear can it be.

Off to bleach my eyes now...

We have absolutely no idea how he was raised.

However he will have gone through male puberty. He failed his first eligibility test in 2022. The standards of behaviour expected of him are a million miles away from Muslim women from rural, traditional backgrounds.

It is insulting all of our intelligence to suggest that Khelif doesn't know what sex he is.

Apologies have not RTFT. I thought this would be a real turning point and that so many people would be outraged about these boxers. My Facebook feed is full of people talking about them - but sticking up for them against a tide of "bigotry and misinformation". (These aren't posts from people I know, just the random stuff Facebook presents you with). There is just so much of it, I'm finding it really depressing.

Surely having a refugee team is a political statement.

He was raised as a girl and has a close pack around him telling him he's a woman.

Someone is seeing just how stupid people can be, how many will say 'she' if they're told to.

Yes I've thought this for a very long time.

He was raised as a girl and has a close pack around him telling him he's a woman.

Apologies have not RTFT. I thought this would be a real turning point and that so many people would be outraged about these boxers. My Facebook feed is full of people talking about them - but sticking up for them against a tide of "bigotry and misinformation". (These aren't posts from people I know, just the random stuff Facebook presents you with). There is just so much of it, I'm finding it really depressing.

There's no way this bloke thinks he's female;he knows he's a bloke,we know he's a bloke,everyone knows he's a bloke.

She is from a poor, very conservative background too.

I'm at a loss to how anyone is squaring this with the fact that Khelif is Muslim. Muslim women from poor conservative backgrounds do not behave in public as Khelif has.

There isn't even a need to "doctor" it per se. In the UK you just need to apply to change the sex marker on your passport, it's not a legal process at all.

They all know he’s male, they just don’t care

The sad thing about all of this is none of it is surprising- a captured IOC, a fully captured media and endless promotion by said media of “ooooh it’s so complicated” means that unless your someone who has been following this for a while, you would think there’s no way the IOC would let a man box a woman

I mean Lbh how many times have ppl come on here to insist men in women’s prisons/refuges/rape groups/sport etc never happens and been gobsmacked when presented with the evidence

I mean it is mad - it’s all insane, we’re in the upside down

They all know he’s male, they just don’t care

The sad thing about all of this is none of it is surprising- a captured IOC, a fully captured media and endless promotion by said media of “ooooh it’s so complicated” means that unless your someone who has been following this for a while, you would think there’s no way the IOC would let a man box a woman

I mean Lbh how many times have ppl come on here to insist men in women’s prisons/refuges/rape groups/sport etc never happens and been gobsmacked when presented with the evidence

I mean it is mad - it’s all insane, we’re in the upside down