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Wow! Look whats in the Guardian.

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Omlettes · 09/08/2024 03:53

"Sharron Davies encourages Khelif and Lin’s opponents to challenge defeats"
A sane straight reporting article that even mentions Sex Matters.
Thats the second one this week.
I'm hoping if we pressure Viner she will do some serious investigative journalism into the IOC, the Sex Matters semina posted on the other thread was eyeopening as to the extent of the IOCs control over the media.

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biddyboo · 09/08/2024 08:08

The BBC has written an article that is attempting to be more balanced as well https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko.amp

It's not perfect as it does contain a quote saying sex isn't exclusively binary 😕 It does also quote the wonderful Emma Hilton though.

With this article, and the one in the guardian, it does seem as if there is a shift now on how this is being reported. Although this truly terrible piece also appeared in the Guardian yesterday https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/08/paris-olympics-culture-wars-russia-west?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The author did get ratioed on twitter though.

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif

What does science tell us about boxing’s gender row?

Research is shedding light on different chromosomal make-ups and what advantages they may bring to sport.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko.amp

Datun · 09/08/2024 08:01

Maybe the sight of men punching the shit out of women with the backing of the IOC has finally crystallised the issue.

It is the logical end game of being able to change passports, but many, if not most, probably people didn't think it would come to this.

How many times have we heard, that won't happen? Whilst thinking that it will, it has.

Knowing exactly how far some men will go to screw women over has been a central theme of FWR.

kiterunning · 09/08/2024 07:47

Wow that's incredible from the Guardian!

InvisibleBuffy · 09/08/2024 07:40

Interesting. We'd not have seen anything close to this in the Guardian a few years ago.

Userxyd · 09/08/2024 05:19

"A spokesperson for the IOC said: “All athletes participating in the boxing tournament of Paris 2024 comply with the competition’s eligibility and entry regulations, as well as all applicable medical regulations.”

Yes - because the regulations are wrong!

The spokesperson added: “The guidelines on athlete expression for Paris 2024 ... provide a framework for athletes and other Games participants to express their views during the Games and are fully in line with the guidelines implemented for Tokyo 2020 and the Winter Games Beijing 2022, which had provided new and increased opportunities to athletes.”

Yes - new and increased opportunities for male athletes in female competitions.

V encouraging to see the Guardian covering this though as a straight non biased piece of journalism.

I didn't realise that about East German female athletes full of testosterone and the health problems/ deaths as a result. So sad for females taking testosterone with no idea of the risks.

Hope the legal cases get started asap to stop doctors prescribing any more of it. Instead they need to be researching how best to support female detransitioners- particularly the inevitable cases where some will need to detransition due to health risks, but won't want to... 😫😢

cariadlet · 09/08/2024 05:03

Thanks!

cariadlet · 09/08/2024 04:18

Have you got a link?