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Where am I on the scale of masculine to feminine?

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twopercent · 05/08/2024 12:09

This is a question in a survey I am filling out. I don't know how to answer it. Very long heavy survey, quite important nationally.

I need to say where I fit on this scale, 0 being totally masculine and 10 being totally feminine.

Well, my first thought was 7ish.

I am a woman, but I don't think of myself as feminine particularly - I don't wear woman's clothing, I don't wear make up, I have short hair, I do my own DIY....

But then I thought, well, is it asking if I am a WOMAN? if so then yes, I am 100%, so should say 10?

I might contact the organisers and ask about this question, but nor sure how to frame it.

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Catsmere · 06/08/2024 21:49

LilyBartsHatShop · 06/08/2024 12:36

I just typed a long reply along the lines of,
What supposed decades old questionnare is this?! All this nonsense femininity-masculinity spectrum stuff has only just appeared in 21st century!!
Then I realised we are SEVERAL DECADES IN to the 21st Century already...
😱
(Apologies to young readers, just some middle aged garbling!!!!!)

Tell me about it, I'm permanently in shock that the 80s were forty years ago and most of the actors from 70s, never mind 60s, series I watched are long gone!

LilyBartsHatShop · 06/08/2024 12:36

I just typed a long reply along the lines of,
What supposed decades old questionnare is this?! All this nonsense femininity-masculinity spectrum stuff has only just appeared in 21st century!!
Then I realised we are SEVERAL DECADES IN to the 21st Century already...
😱
(Apologies to young readers, just some middle aged garbling!!!!!)

ChaChaChooey · 06/08/2024 10:55

Peach is Pink only heavier!

Catsmere · 06/08/2024 06:21

Melroses · 05/08/2024 12:18

There is no scale of masculine to feminine.

Some traits are considered more masculine and some are considered more feminine, but they all vary as to mood and situation, and weather 🤷‍♀️

Not to mention varying from society to society, and at different times within the same society! Try telling an Elizabethan or Georgian dandy that swanning around in vivid silks and velvets, makeup and jewellery isn't masculine and you'd get a sword in the guts.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 05/08/2024 22:22

ChaChaChooey · 05/08/2024 19:56

This scale?

I’m orange (trouser suit with a bit of a puff sleeve).

Men don't get a lot of options, do they? The 8, 9 and 10 versions appear to be identical - and only differ from 11 because he's not tucked in his shirt.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 05/08/2024 21:14

Forester1 · 05/08/2024 12:51

agree you should ask for clarification as it’s not a single line. So if I’m asked to solve a problem I may consider that I have a more masculine approach but if I’m asked whether I enjoy watching fighting I would say feminine. But I’d resent both questions as they are underpinned by stereotypes.

As a man with a mixture of "masculine" and "feminine" characteristics, I completely agree. There is not one axis of feminine/masculine, but many. Also, what is considered feminine or masculine depends on what culture we live in - in my lifetime, UK culture (in itself a huge simplification, as there are many cultural variations in the UK) has changed, so that what is expected by society of women and men has changed.

When I was young, men rarely cooked or ironed; the latter is still probably not common, but in my social circles it's no longer considered "women's work" in the same way as in the '60s. These days most self-respecting men are proud of their cooking skills. And men are not expected to be the "head of the household" any more - certainly not by their wives!

AnyFucker · 05/08/2024 20:40

Print it off and cross out the question. Write instead ”there is male/ female with nothing imbetween. How I behave and how I dress does not change that”

ChaChaChooey · 05/08/2024 20:19

quantumbutterfly · 05/08/2024 20:11

What's going on with the red head?

Exhaust pipe?

it’s almost unbelievable that this utter guff has been shown in slide presentations to schools and workplaces!

quantumbutterfly · 05/08/2024 20:11

What's going on with the red head?

ChaChaChooey · 05/08/2024 19:56

This scale?

I’m orange (trouser suit with a bit of a puff sleeve).

Where am I on the scale of masculine to feminine?
Crouton19 · 05/08/2024 19:49

They should identify specific traits or behaviours and ask how relevant they are, eg how often do you clean/do childcare/wear makeup/change the oil in the car/think about the roman empire, and take it from there.

ColourByNumbers88 · 05/08/2024 19:47

I'd just answer 7, that was your gut feeling.

twopercent · 05/08/2024 19:44

LizzieSiddal · 05/08/2024 19:39

I wouldn’t beable to take a sure seriously with a question like that in it.

What I mean is it is a very big, very long standing survey, involving thousands of people, every 5 years for many decades, and is used in many ways. I don't want to say what it is, because the demographic being surveyed is very specific, but it is a survey that matters.

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LizzieSiddal · 05/08/2024 19:39

twopercent · 05/08/2024 19:27

well, it is an important survey, so Iam still filling out the rest. I have left that blank for now.

I wouldn’t beable to take a sure seriously with a question like that in it.

twopercent · 05/08/2024 19:38

Boxina · 05/08/2024 19:36

Can you just leave it blank? Or do you have to answer it?

I think I have to answer to submit, but the alternative is print out the survey and return by post, and I might do that instead. With comments on that question instead of an answer

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Boxina · 05/08/2024 19:36

twopercent · 05/08/2024 19:27

well, it is an important survey, so Iam still filling out the rest. I have left that blank for now.

Can you just leave it blank? Or do you have to answer it?

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 05/08/2024 19:33

Perhaps they should have a couple of preliminary questions;
Were you born with a penis?
If yes, is it now in a jar of formaldehyde?

Dartwarbler · 05/08/2024 19:33

This sort of shit question I would other go N/a or don’t know if available, or a 5 (absolute middle).

twopercent · 05/08/2024 19:27

Omlettes · 05/08/2024 19:04

Bizarre survey, whats it for, and why is it relevant?
Personally I wouldnt fill it out and if there was an option, Id say I dont identify as either construct, I just am.
If not Id write to them and say it, and point out many dont buy into these old fashioned boxes.

well, it is an important survey, so Iam still filling out the rest. I have left that blank for now.

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Omlettes · 05/08/2024 19:04

twopercent · 05/08/2024 12:09

This is a question in a survey I am filling out. I don't know how to answer it. Very long heavy survey, quite important nationally.

I need to say where I fit on this scale, 0 being totally masculine and 10 being totally feminine.

Well, my first thought was 7ish.

I am a woman, but I don't think of myself as feminine particularly - I don't wear woman's clothing, I don't wear make up, I have short hair, I do my own DIY....

But then I thought, well, is it asking if I am a WOMAN? if so then yes, I am 100%, so should say 10?

I might contact the organisers and ask about this question, but nor sure how to frame it.

Bizarre survey, whats it for, and why is it relevant?
Personally I wouldnt fill it out and if there was an option, Id say I dont identify as either construct, I just am.
If not Id write to them and say it, and point out many dont buy into these old fashioned boxes.

Nothingeverything · 05/08/2024 18:33

I'm intrigued to know what this survey is! Do they account for cultural differences? My dh wears pink shirts. Does that make him more feminine? He's Italian though and doesn't equate pink shirts with being feminine - should I give him a few more masculine points? What on earth could this data be useful for?

Grammarnut · 05/08/2024 13:29

You might gently tell them there is no scale. You are either male or female (even if you are one of a vanishing small number of people who have a DSD, and even then you would still be male or female).
One might say that there are nuances of masculine and feminine expression, but that has to do with personality.

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 05/08/2024 13:15

I vary in masculinity and femininity depending on which 'microculture' I'm interacting with at any given time, or whether I'm spending time with my daughter, doing sporty things or lounging on the sofa. Sometimes I watch trash TV and a lot of the time I'm watching Star Trek.

Is Star Trek watching a masculine pursuit? I know LOADS of Trekkie women, in fact there are a lot of Trekkies on this board. Therefore it could be argued to be a feminine pursuit.

Last week I had a period, something only women do - does that make me less womanly now since I'm not having a period and men don't have periods.

I hate these stupid completely nonsensical questions! Might as well ask "are you a typical Libran or do you possess traits associated with the other star signs?".

GladAllOver · 05/08/2024 13:10

What is this survey? Where did it come from?

quantumbutterfly · 05/08/2024 12:53

Every biological woman is 100% feminine whether we conform to imposed stereotypes or not. That question is a complete bolleaux.