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Can a XX woman go through male puberty?

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DenmarkStreet · 03/08/2024 18:50

The Facebook algorithms decided that I was a good object for an article on the Imane Khelif discussion which ended with the statement that some XX women go through male puberty. Or as it was described "the testosterone shower" which very much seem to suggest something quite brief. Is this even possible or just made up?

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Fetlocksblowininthewind · 03/08/2024 19:26

RandySavage · 03/08/2024 19:18

I’m discussing this elsewhere. Someone has just told me that:

“What “chromosome testing” would/should deny a woman a place in the competition? Remember, there are XY mothers out there, and XY women who have gained no physical advantage in their sport due to their chromosomes.”

Are there ‘xy’ mothers? How can there be if xy and xxy = male puberty?

They are leveraging the vanishingly rare and quite the medical curiosity case where a person with Swyers syndrome carried a pregnancy to term with a donated egg.

This was managed with a huge amount of medical intervention. I mean herculean amounts of help to achieve this. Someone linked the case study in another thread and I can't remember which one. Interesting for sure.

As I understand it (and I am happy to be corrected by someone who is actually knowledgeable about this) Swyers syndrome affects people who have not gone through either male or female puberty but are technically male.

It's totally wrong of people to use this case as a gotcha, it's an outlier of a case in medical intervention but again as I understand it is to do with where the Y chromosome ended up but essentially still a failed male pubertal pathway.

PatatiPatatras · 03/08/2024 19:25

There are so many xy mothers out there that the possibility of 2 of them turning up in boxing matches against women is high.

Not.

The chances of a cheek swab kicking out a man are exponentially higher than the chances of it kicking out a birth-giving xy human.

But just like that the world collectively begins to doubt the evidence of its eyes and ears.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 03/08/2024 19:23

SRY gene translocated onto X chromosome?

RandySavage · 03/08/2024 19:18

I’m discussing this elsewhere. Someone has just told me that:

“What “chromosome testing” would/should deny a woman a place in the competition? Remember, there are XY mothers out there, and XY women who have gained no physical advantage in their sport due to their chromosomes.”

Are there ‘xy’ mothers? How can there be if xy and xxy = male puberty?

3CustardCreams · 03/08/2024 19:00

Never encountered it in over ten years of working in medicine. However I am not a specialist in that area.

MinnieCauldwell · 03/08/2024 19:00

Of course not!
XX = female puberty

XY = male pubetty

XXY = male puberty also, this is typically a male with a DSD.

The Y chromosone will always give a male puberty even with the extra X

If you have a Y you're a guy....