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Feminism may turn out to be a short-lived civil rights movement if we don’t wake up to the threat that females now face

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IwantToRetire · 03/08/2024 00:57

Femicide appears to have become the “new black” this year. Misogyny has always been in fashion in one guise or another.

In the early 20th century it took the form of men trying to stop women having the vote. In the 1940s and 50s, it was the expectation that a woman’s place was in the home. When women rebelled and burned their bras in the 1960s and 70s, they were accused of being dangerous feminists.

Women have since been criticised for both earning a living, and staying at home to look after their children. They have had to put up with being sexually harassed at work, spawning the MeToo movement, been historically underpaid for generations compared with their male colleagues, and cruelly let down by a criminal justice system that has never done enough to protect them from men trying to rape and abuse them.

Then came the trans extremist movement which once again saw some men – identifying as female – trying to subjugate women by invading their spaces. We’ve seen academic women including <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/j3nIN/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/29/hounding-kathleen-stock-means-freedom-speech/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kathleen Stock hounded out of universities, successful women like J K Rowling disowned by the very people she made famous, and ordinary women smeared as bigots simply for trying to stand up for the sisterhood and children’s safeguarding.

Until this week, however, I don’t recall ever seeing a woman be actively put in harm’s way in the name of “inclusivity”. In arguably the most grotesque example of rampant wokery the world has ever witnessed, Thursday saw Italian boxer <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/j3nIN/www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2024/08/01/angela-carini-imane-khelif-italian-boxer-punched/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Angela Carini – an athlete so tough she is nicknamed “the Tiger” – having to abandon a bout in just 46 seconds, after being pummelled by an opponent with XY chromosomes.

Article continues at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/02/women-are-under-vicious-attack-and-too-few-liberals-care/

Right up until the very end I agreed with her, but not her conclusion - full article can read at https://archive.ph/j3nIN

Women are under vicious attack – and too few liberal progressives seem to care

Feminism may turn out to be a short-lived civil rights movement if we don’t wake up to the threat that females now face

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/02/women-are-under-vicious-attack-and-too-few-liberals-care

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Happyinarcon · 03/08/2024 05:17

I can’t read the article because it’s behind a paywall, but mainstream feminism has been dead in the water a long time. It’s all about convincing young women that Only Fans is empowering and insisting they join the army in combat positions, while at the same time insisting that women are getting slaughtered in Olympic boxing rings by men.

None of it adds up, no one even knows what feminism is anyway except an empty media rallying call. There are mumsnet threads arguing that the sports uniforms for women are not too revealing and women are free to wear whatever they want no matter how tight or inappropriate, and then threads like this that somehow feel that women have zero personal agency and are being forced into the ring to fight men.

So here’s my response. Male soldiers have forever been against serving alongside women and say it’s because they feel women are the physically weaker sex and need to be protected. Feminists attacked this position as misogynistic. So now we are being misogynistic by assuming these women can’t make their own decisions about who they compete against in a sporting arena. I’m tired of feminism insisting that women should be treated like men and then getting hysterical when they are treated like men, and then expecting me to get riled up about it.

Walkden · 03/08/2024 04:47

The furore over this boxing match is unreal. this man who apparently " pummeled" this woman for all of 46 seconds landed only a few punches.

If this man is so ridiculously strong and hits women boxes "like they have never been hit before", how come he? Has been beaten more then once by other women?

There have been many instances of people suffering serious injuries and death in boxing bouts and both of the "men" taking part in the Olympics have boxed women many other times and not killed anyone yet.

Is it possible that thes bouts are unfair and hay be banned going forward? Yes

Is it wanton endangerment of female lives? Get a grip.

Catsmere · 03/08/2024 03:40

I'm not sure I read that last paragraph as having to rely on violent men. Though it's understandable if women despair of getting anywhere alone, because male strength and violence is something we can't physically counter.

Omlettes · 03/08/2024 03:37

Feminism has been under attack since its inception with the great writers of the 18th century and those who set the route before.
In our own lifetimes we have seen that.
I can remember the eyewateringly overt insults to feminists when Iwas a child in the 70s.
Its the largest political movement in the world, it may change name and go in and out with the tide but it will persist.
Rimanere forte.

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IwantToRetire · 03/08/2024 02:13

Laate night typos:

Or if you do agree with what she said in her last paragraph how does that it is with autonomous women organising - or do you think the only future for feminism is to rely on voilent men?

Or if you do agree with what she said in her last paragraph, how does that fit in with autonomous women organising - or do you think the only future for feminism is to rely on voilent men?

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Toseland · 03/08/2024 01:47

Do keep up Camilla dear - some of us have been fighting for bloody years!

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IwantToRetire · 03/08/2024 01:34

But did you read to the rest.

Did you see what she said in the last paragraph?

You have to read the article in full not just the first paragraphs I used in OP.

Or if you do agree with what she said in her last paragraph how does that it is with autonomous women organising - or do you think the only future for feminism is to rely on voilent men? Sad Confused

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Catsmere · 03/08/2024 01:27

Good to see it referred to as trans extremism. To me the destruction of women's rights is the whole point of this movement.

XChrome · 03/08/2024 01:19

Great article. Thank you.