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If you're all about diversity ...

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tobee · 02/08/2024 18:02

are you not always excluding someone? So it not possible to be truly diverse ever?

Pretty sure I'm preaching to the choir here (😃) but I was thinking this a lot over the last few days. Since the furore over the apparent depiction of The Last Supper at the Olympics opening ceremony offending Christians and my thoughts meandering around lots of other things in and the news atm.

Basically, inclusion and diversity become oppositional. And yet it's the done thing to trumpet your inclusivity and diversity.

Or am I reading it wrong?

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KielderWater · 03/08/2024 02:18

To me DEI policies are all about excluding white men.

Apart from a specific group of white men…

TempestTost · 03/08/2024 00:57

dottiehens · 02/08/2024 23:41

In my opinion you do not need to be so offensive to Catholics to make a point of diversity. Also, the diversity mostly has been done badly and it feels fake. Like forced and unnecessary. I rather not to be hired than given a job to tick a box. I would be extremely uncomfortable and I am not anyone’s underdog project.
Recently one of my kids was invited to put himself forward for something he needs to prepare and make an effort. He said he won’t be bothering as they will choose a person to represent diversity. Even though he is non white and mixed but it is usually a specific type they are after in the last few years. I think the US does this better. As seen in the diversity visa application and the inclusion of countries that are less represented in the immigration over there.

No, the US does not do it better. They are worse, IMO, as is Canada. Employment ads are outright allowed to say they prefer diverse candidates with no special justification. Up until recently American university weighed applications based on race.

dottiehens · 02/08/2024 23:41

In my opinion you do not need to be so offensive to Catholics to make a point of diversity. Also, the diversity mostly has been done badly and it feels fake. Like forced and unnecessary. I rather not to be hired than given a job to tick a box. I would be extremely uncomfortable and I am not anyone’s underdog project.
Recently one of my kids was invited to put himself forward for something he needs to prepare and make an effort. He said he won’t be bothering as they will choose a person to represent diversity. Even though he is non white and mixed but it is usually a specific type they are after in the last few years. I think the US does this better. As seen in the diversity visa application and the inclusion of countries that are less represented in the immigration over there.

HarrytheHobbit · 02/08/2024 23:02

IMO many EDI policies foster divison and resentment.

Screamingabdabz · 02/08/2024 22:55

qwerty14 · 02/08/2024 22:33

To me DEI policies are all about excluding white men.
My son got a computing degree where most of his fellow students were white males and he got on a grad scheme in a well known city institution, there was 70 on the scheme and only 3 white men.

There are no male Northerners or Scottish people.
80% of Grads went to private schools.
Only a couple of his peers have parents who are not wealthy.

Despite this it is seen as very progressive and diverse.

Yep diversity never seems to include working class people unless they tick one of the other boxes…

Catsmere · 02/08/2024 22:51

Half the time it seems fake anyway - like IT firms pretending they are employing more women, when all they've done is employ men who cross-dress.

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tobee · 02/08/2024 22:45

Hmm ds is 25 and says similar. My dnephews are 20 and 18 and think the same.

I feel it's like a fashion.

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qwerty14 · 02/08/2024 22:33

To me DEI policies are all about excluding white men.
My son got a computing degree where most of his fellow students were white males and he got on a grad scheme in a well known city institution, there was 70 on the scheme and only 3 white men.

There are no male Northerners or Scottish people.
80% of Grads went to private schools.
Only a couple of his peers have parents who are not wealthy.

Despite this it is seen as very progressive and diverse.