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The Guardian on Angela Carini - 'An Uncomfortable watch...'

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Omlettes · 02/08/2024 17:42

Well well well Kath Viner...
This is extraordinary the Guardian is turning, slowly, but turning. Its not the Observer either people, but the G, the paper that has actively promoted lies for 6 years on this topic, done no reporting and suppressed reporters who try.
Hadley Freeman and Suzanne Moore hats off to you, OJ must be delighted ...😂https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/02/boxing-olympics-lisa-nandy-imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting

‘An uncomfortable watch’: UK minister speaks on Olympic boxing gender row

Lisa Nandy, the UK culture secretary, has described the Olympic boxing bout featuring Imane Khelif of Algeria as “an incredibly uncomfortable watch”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/02/boxing-olympics-lisa-nandy-imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting

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FuzzyPuffling · 02/08/2024 17:55

@miri1985 . Exactly my thoughts.

Surely a sex test should be discriminatory, in that it is there for the sole purpose of sorting two groups with different characteristics.

miri1985 · 02/08/2024 17:52

"Adams cast doubt on the testing carried out by the IBA. “We don’t know if the test was accurate. We don’t know whether we should believe the test,” he said, adding that there was “a difference between the test taking place and whether we accept the accuracy or even the protocol of the test”.

Addressing the issue of sex testing, Adams said “it’s impossible to have a sex test that is comprehensive and works and it’s not discriminatory.” He added: “I don’t think anyone wants to see a return to some of the scenes. I know some of those athletes who underwent sex tests in their teens. It was pretty disgraceful. And luckily, that is behind us.”"

Of course sex testing is going to be discriminatory, thats the whole point. I hate that his whole attitude is we don't know what the tests say but we'd prefer not to carry out any of our own.

Why can't the IOC explain why there are sex/testosterone rules for some of the athletics but not the combat sports, surely one is potentially much more detrimental to another persons health if competitions are unfair

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 02/08/2024 17:51

They'll walk it back.

We may as well set a timer.