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Help me present evidence to my son

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AlbertaWildRose · 02/08/2024 00:17

My DS is 18 and heavy into the TWAW belief. He thinks JK Rowling is a despicable human being for her position and thinks that women should have no problem with all of this, and it's all just "scare-mongering" to say otherwise. Whenever I try to talk to him about this I end up getting too emotional to be rational. I really want to present him with evidence that this movement is not good for women - please help direct me to some good resources. Thank you.

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DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:20

Nothingeverything · 02/08/2024 18:19

Lucky that nobody else has done that then, isn't it?

So because the Nazis killed trans people it’s ok.

Alucard55 · 02/08/2024 18:19

Go on then.

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:19

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:18

Free speech is fine. Promoting harm against individuals is not.

Also, why are so many of you on here men???? The patriarchy is the misogynistic force behind trans hate ladies.

Nothingeverything · 02/08/2024 18:19

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:18

Free speech is fine. Promoting harm against individuals is not.

Lucky that nobody else has done that then, isn't it?

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:18

Nothingeverything · 02/08/2024 18:16

Operation Let Them Speak strikes again!

Free speech is fine. Promoting harm against individuals is not.

Nothingeverything · 02/08/2024 18:16

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:15

Well it’s been fun outing some of this country’s most dangerous and hate filled bigots. I bet I can list their other political views quite accurately too lol.

Operation Let Them Speak strikes again!

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:16

Alucard55 · 02/08/2024 16:23

😂😂😂 you're having us on now.

Well it’s been fun outing some of this country’s most dangerous and hate filled bigots. I bet I can list their other political views quite accurately too lol.

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:15

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Well it’s been fun outing some of this country’s most dangerous and hate filled bigots. I bet I can list their other political views quite accurately too lol.

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:10

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/08/2024 18:10

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you can really tell its the summer holidays 🙄

BackToLurk · 02/08/2024 18:09

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:08

All out of context and childishly twisted so you are silly. All those points are relevant to various albeit narrow aspects of a bigger picture.

In what way twisted? You haven't really expanded on that

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:08

BackToLurk · 02/08/2024 18:05

Illuminating. I wonder whether you think these responses look like the posts of someone with a solid argument.
You brought up male impotence. You brought up malicious rape allegations. I'm not sure the person revealing your inability to expand on these 'contributions' is the silly one.

All out of context and childishly twisted so you are silly. All those points are relevant to various albeit narrow aspects of a bigger picture.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/08/2024 18:07

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No, I want to see them. It's really irresponsible to sensationalise about suicide without proof.

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 18:05

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BackToLurk · 02/08/2024 18:05

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:58

Silly question silly person

Illuminating. I wonder whether you think these responses look like the posts of someone with a solid argument.
You brought up male impotence. You brought up malicious rape allegations. I'm not sure the person revealing your inability to expand on these 'contributions' is the silly one.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/08/2024 17:59

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Do you have any sources to back up that rather wild claim?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/08/2024 17:59

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:21

Well even if there were full womb and uterus transplants with ovaries the lot most here would hate the original amab forever

all a tw can do is try and be happy

its not a mental illness and all the worlds proper medical institutions recognise it including the WHO and AMA

If it's not a mental illness what are these medical institutions recognising it as?

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:58

BackToLurk · 02/08/2024 17:52

Talking of ignoring posts, still awaiting the reasoning behind why some impotent males are OK in the ladies & some aren't, along with those references.

Thanks

Silly question silly person

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:56

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BackToLurk · 02/08/2024 17:52

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:50

In several posts you must have ignored and that mantra of your type is what is boring

Talking of ignoring posts, still awaiting the reasoning behind why some impotent males are OK in the ladies & some aren't, along with those references.

Thanks

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:52

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 02/08/2024 17:46

They will be completely safe from me wherever they pee as I don't hate transgender people and wouldn't hit them even if I did, but they won't ever find me in the ladies' loos.

I would definitely appreciate it if people stopped twisting words. We all used to know what they meant, but the trans identity movement has tried to unilaterally redefine several, causing confusion and resentment in equal measure, and making it really difficult for people to discuss anything gender related. The worst trick was to redefine the expression of physical reality as hatred.

Hitler didn’t kill any Jews either

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:50

Zita60 · 02/08/2024 17:36

Well, I'm terribly sorry that my desire for women's rights and safety is boring you. You still haven't provided any examples of what JKR has said that I can find.

In several posts you must have ignored and that mantra of your type is what is boring

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:49

ApocalipstickNow · 02/08/2024 17:33

Yes you have. In the page before you wrote this.

Nope that was a nutter’s post taken down and my comment in reply went with it.

Beachcomber · 02/08/2024 17:48

Coming back to the OP of this thread.

I'm lucky enough to have family and most friends who agree with me that transgenderism is a dangerous ideology and that trans medecine is not evidence based and is the biggest medical scandal of our time which has done (and is still doing) untold harm.

However I do have some friends who are still captured.

I avoid the subject with those friends and instead put my energy into useful actions such as supporting people who are speaking out and contacting institutions that can actually make a difference.

Also whenever I'm feeling frustrated or hopeless about where we are with all this I read or listen to the people who are doing brilliant work to combat the madness.

I highly recommend Helen Joyce's book and the podcasters who have been brave enough to give her a platform.

It makes me feel so much better and positive to know that there are sensible, brilliant people who are doing the hard and important work of turning the tide.

This will pass. At the moment we are still in the midst of massive social contagion and ideological capture. But the tide is turning.

At the moment much of the general public still thinks that transgenderism is a civil rights movement akin to gay rights. But people are starting to sit up and take notice and the harms done are so terrible that there is no getting away from them.

In my opinion what we need to do currently is fight against the sterilising of children and the removal of their healthy body parts. We need to do that in order to stop the damage and also to expose these interventions as gay conversion and human rights abuse. It has to stop because it is so so terrible. It is also (due to its awfulness) what will make the whole house of cards come tumbling down.

We will get there. And your son will catch on once the court cases and inquiries start piling up.

DianaAntoniaJasmine · 02/08/2024 17:48

Zita60 · 02/08/2024 17:33

Transwomen who violate women's spaces are misogynistic.

Male fantasists? Well, they are. They are male, but think they are women. If they were really secure in their belief that they were women, they wouldn't care if a few million women disagreed about that.

If someone demands that everyone else share their belief otherwise they will be miserable, that's a bit silly. They have no right to demand that the rest of us agree with them.

Ok. I don’t think it is a reasoned view but thank you for being adult about it.

I don’t want to know what you mean by violate but if you mean using any single sex space the implication is that trans men with beards and cocks will be in the ladies with your wife and daughters.