Help me present evidence to my son

They will be completely safe from me wherever they pee as I don't hate transgender people and wouldn't hit them even if I did, but they won't ever find me in the ladies' loos.

I would definitely appreciate it if people stopped twisting words. We all used to know what they meant, but the trans identity movement has tried to unilaterally redefine several, causing confusion and resentment in equal measure, and making it really difficult for people to discuss anything gender related. The worst trick was to redefine the expression of physical reality as hatred.

Well, I'm terribly sorry that my desire for women's rights and safety is boring you. You still haven't provided any examples of what JKR has said that I can find.

Just as well, since I wasn't talking to you! 😃

Yes you have. In the page before you wrote this.

Transwomen who violate women's spaces are misogynistic.

Male fantasists? Well, they are. They are male, but think they are women. If they were really secure in their belief that they were women, they wouldn't care if a few million women disagreed about that.

If someone demands that everyone else share their belief otherwise they will be miserable, that's a bit silly. They have no right to demand that the rest of us agree with them.

But what is the basis for including trans women without a violent/sexual conviction share with women, but excluding men - for clarity I will use the activist term cis-men? Let’s say someone with a tax evasion conviction or driving offences?

What about those on remand, or those without convictions but who would provoke a Clare’s Law response. What about coercive control?

Do you acknowledge that regardless of your own position, people can have a considered and compassionate view which is not the sales as yours, and who feel that you don’t have the right to offer up other women’s consent?

Aaaaanyway, the court thing might be useful for people's sons as something to think about.

What if one of your friends was forced to call her rapist 'she' and say she'd been raped by a 'woman' with 'her penis' when she knew with every fibre of her being that she'd been raped by a man? Would you tell your friend that of course her rapist was a woman?

What if one of your friends was raped and then found she had to talk it in front of someone with a male body and a male voice otherwise she couldn't access any help, even though every time he spoke she panicked and got flashbacks to the last time a strange male talked about that subject.

It's actually interesting that you mention Brighton given the situation there regarding rape crisis services. The I am Sarah case concerns a rape survivor in Brighton requesting one, singular female single sex group, to go alongside the current women's (mixed sex) group, men's group and a group for those who are trans/non binary. It was refused.

In the same way, rape crisis services in Scotland who receive funding from the Scottish Government do not offer single sex rape crisis services. In fact, there was no such provision in Edinburgh and the Lothians until JKR set up and fully funded Beira's Place for which she still gets unbelievable amounts of abuse.

And that's not even getting into ERCC's awful behaviour which was exposed at the latest Employment Tribunal.

I agree your previous posts that in terms of rape crisis services and domestic abuse shelters etc that there should be both mixed sex and single sex service in order to meet all group's needs.

But this isn't currently happening. What is happening is that women who require single sex services but are unable to access them are self excluding from services they need.

I haven’t had a post deleted

Well even if there were full womb and uterus transplants with ovaries the lot most here would hate the original amab forever

all a tw can do is try and be happy

its not a mental illness and all the worlds proper medical institutions recognise it including the WHO and AMA

What do you mean they think I've gone too far? Have I had a post deleted? I can see that you have had several deleted.

I almost never report posts.

Sorry I don’t talk gen z or even millennial

If you cannot see it you are insane or malicious either way I won’t talk with you anymore

Even MN admin think you go too far and I’ve answered it not that I want any more contact with you. I was warned about you. I thought I would try to be civil. It’s wasted on you.
Haters gonna hate. Have a nice life.

The only thing all trans identifying men have in common is that they are men. What is female about a "trans woman"?

Yes, I am.

Someone's having a laugh.
Walls, nails, jelly.

So you have the references then

You're not to blame for the courts. People are asking you whether you agree with the approach that has sometimes been adopted in the last, i.e. that a female rape survivor should be forced to refer to her rapist as "she" in court.

There are differing views on this.

What is your view on it?

What is silly about my questions?

Why is it disgusting to ask this question?

It is a serious enough question that judges have made rulings on this issue in the past, and the bench book has now been updated to give judges guidance about the proper conduct to observe in court.

So when a rape victim is testifying against her rapist in court, should she be forced to refer to him as "she" if that's how he claims to identify? Yes or no?

you are only attacking me
No. You said I was abusing you by quoting the exact words you used. Everyone can see what you are doing and it's not pretty. If you are unwilling to explain the inconsistencies in your arguments why post them online at all? This is a discussion board.

It was a factual but small part of a conversation you are making into something else

What do you mean this isn’t about me?
what are you on about I don’t care?
how am
i to blame for the courts?

I'm not twisting anything.

To recap, in a thread about a transwoman (a man saying he is a woman) in court accused of rape you introduced the 'much higher' level of malicious rape claims (False allegations sit around the 3% mark according to the MoJ). You went on to say this was widely reported. So I've asked for the references (should be simple for you) and how this relates to TW (as you introduced malicious rape claims into a discussion about TW).

MissScarletInTheBallroom · Today 16:17
So do you think a rape survivor should have to call her rapist "she" in court if he says he is a woman?

DianaAntoniaJasmine · Today 16:21
No

MissScarletInTheBallroom · Today 16:23
So not all misgendering is vile then?

DianaAntoniaJasmine · Today 16:25
Well a male rapist is not going to be a person particularly worthy of being called a woman.

I assume you mean after conviction because the police are reporting much higher levels of malicious rape claims. [my emphasis]