I have never felt a punch like this’ – Carini

Just to be clear, this isn't alwys the case.

Google Swyer syndrome. Functioning vagina, womb etc but XY

I feel awful for Khelif here. Not her fault they let her compete and so she did.
Waily fucking wail.
HE chose to.
HE must know what his hormones and chromosomes are.
Very unfortunate for HIM, it is true, but that is no reason for HIM to go and beat the shit out of Angela Carini.

Sex is binary. And then there are DSDs.

What? No, give me ANY source at all that says it. I gave one example of a shit rag that would tar if it could.

It's got absolutely zilch to do with the Daily Mail. You need to do some research of your own.

DSDs are disorders of either male or of female development. DSDs do not muddy the fact of sex, but they do end up reinforcing it.

Most media sources are captured and bound by rules of reporting whe it comes to this matter. This is why they obscure the full truth with evasions and half facts.

What makes you think someone who is XY was born with a vagina?

Just to be clear men with a DSD are not born with a vagina

instead what happens is that their penis & testicles do not descend so are not visible

they are not born with a vagina

Ah,so this is a Daily Mail conspiracy.

Interesting.

This ends the confusion surely??

Are you not aware yet how the Daily Mail works? If this was a genetic, biological male, they'd have that splashed everywhere. Why muddy the waters if a man just beat up a woman?

Chromosomes are what determines sex. There are only two sexes. There is no 'gamut'. Males born with Male DSDs often have ambiguous external genitalia - which leads them to be recorded as 'female'. But the essential 'maleness' becomes obvious before too long, and certainly by the time it comes to puberty.

But if you have been born with a vagina and raised as a girl and later find out you have XY chromosomes, what they?

Do you go by chromosomes or genitals? Nobody seems able to answer.

And nobody seems able to answer whether Khelif was born male or not. Just giving articles about a similar athlete who is NOT Khelif

This.

Walk away. A male cheat wins. Better than allowing him to break her nose.

The papers are doing everything possible to obscure the facts in many cases, some have their hands tied by the IOC.

He was born with a DSD of the male ( XY) variety - but his sex was recorded as female.

More likely, what it meant, as with Caster Semenya, was that his maleness became very obvious early on, but because the birth certificate was recorded with 'female' that is what their legal status is.

Caster Semenya always played with the boys, dressed like the boys, went through male puberty; and in fact seems to have a very stereotypical view of women as being too soft andf silly .

There are several threads now explaining the DSD that these two men have.

Like Semenya they are well aware that they are men. They have been chromosomally tested and accepted disqualification previously due to not qualifying for women's events.

I was similarly quite innocently sorry for Semenya, someone with the same condition, until I looked further at the evidence and discovered that he has lived as a man for years, has fathered children, and is only interested in being a 'woman' in the lucrative opportunities offered to him and to his sponsors by exploiting the advantage of his DSD to thrash women in women's sports.

I'm just going to keep posting this on all the threads about this so you can see for yourself what actually happened. Which is, a MAN punched a woman in the head. Twice.To protect her own life, an Olympic athlete has to stop the fight herself because NO-ONE in authority has considered her safety. Absolutely disgraceful.

twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1818965310327619629?s=19

TooTired

This is the outlet that broke the story. No testosterone testing, only chromosome testing on two separate occasions. Both athletes found to be male - standard XY chromosomes. Both athletes accepted the finding of the tests.
https://x.com/reduxxmag/status/1818750970031227242?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

And here is the statement referred to:
https://www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023/

Where does it say she was born male? I can only see the world male in "" in papers.

Yes.

It is sickening how many men are enjoying seeing women put in their place. In this case reduced to their knees and to tears with a facial injury.

Less caring about 'inclusive' than about seeing women get what those men perceive they 'deserve'. Or possibly seeing another man do what they would quite like to do to women themselves.