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Surprisingly clear news article from Australia re XY humans competing at Olympics in female sports

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StealthSpinach · 31/07/2024 01:38

I was extremely surprised to see such a clear, well articulated article in an Australian newspaper.

I was not surprised to see TWAW from IOC representatives.

I truly hope the article writers (named on the website) do not get abuse and vitriol - although I doubt that will be the case, unfortunately.

I do hope the writers publish any abuse they do receive.

If any females are physically or otherwise hurt by males (XY/DSD inclusive), I hope every TWAW IOC official endorsing their inclusion is held responsible.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/olympics/paris-olympics-2024-xy-factor-puts-games-in-turmoil/news-story/11e7a22a6514709eb1d538eebeceb0ac

‘This is a disgrace’: Boxing gender debate splits Olympics

Leading Australian boxing figures have labelled the decision to allow two boxers to compete at the Olympics who have previously been banned because of high testosterone levels as extremely dangerous. SUBSCRIBE TO READ MORE.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/olympics/paris-olympics-2024-xy-factor-puts-games-in-turmoil/news-story/11e7a22a6514709eb1d538eebeceb0ac

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StealthSpinach · 31/07/2024 05:17

Thank you, @Helleofabore - I need to learn to archive!

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Helleofabore · 31/07/2024 04:44

Sorry, I will just plonk down the archive link again

archive.is/Htt3H

Helleofabore · 31/07/2024 04:42

Thanks Spinach.

That is a breath of fresh air from the Courier. It is great to see Jeff Fenech speak out so plainly and Tukel althoughy, I doubt either of those men would be anything but plain speaking about this situation. Both of them would quickly respond to being told that these fighters are male athletes. Hence why language around sex categories of bodies and pronouns are so vital.

When you strip away the obfuscating language and pronouns, the article shows Madeleine Pape’s words to be ideological, misogynistic and inherently negligent towards female athletes in the face of the reality of her position. This article highlights who is responsible for this dangerous situation - the IOC, and where their priorities are. Inclusion at the cost of safety and fairness.

It is remarkable to see an article that isn’t left meaningless due to pronouns and false phrases.

https://archive.is/Htt3H

Well done those journos!

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StealthSpinach · 31/07/2024 04:38

Danfromdownunder · 31/07/2024 04:14

I also listened to this UK based podcast recently and they explicitly stated that there are no men in women’s categories. How can they say that when it’s not true?
podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-story/id1501716010?i=1000663373944

Well, the IOC has banned the press from using of many of the words to describe the situation accurately - the press isn’t supposed to use TW/TM, biological female/biological male, XX/XY etc for Olympic reporting.

I assume the IOC thinks if it controls the language, no one will report it, the public won’t know or care, and then the precedent is set for next time…

Given how captured we are here, it is actually quite shocking (in a good but sureal way) that it is not only reported, but it carefully explains the problem so everyone reading it understands fully the implications.

Really, there is (unfortunately for the XX women involved) no better example than a “XY woman” boxing against a (XX) woman. The comments on the article show the general public are horrified and incredulous that a male can fight a female, with many asking if there will be serious injuries or even deaths before the IOC and transAllies wake up to themselves.

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Omlettes · 31/07/2024 04:18

Thats encouraging.

Danfromdownunder · 31/07/2024 04:14

I also listened to this UK based podcast recently and they explicitly stated that there are no men in women’s categories. How can they say that when it’s not true?
podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-story/id1501716010?i=1000663373944

Danfromdownunder · 31/07/2024 04:13

Surprised to see it on news dot com just now too
www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/gender-storm-erupts-at-paris-olympics/news-story/dbdd21607c131b2dca9c78dcad06d4e4