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High Court says ban by government on PBs was legal

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Justme56 · 29/07/2024 11:25

www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/29/puberty-blockers-ban-tory-government-lawful-high-court-rules

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PriOn1 · 29/07/2024 14:26

Justme56 · 29/07/2024 14:07

I didn’t realise that Helen Belcher and Jane Fae were involved in TransActual.

Good to know, thanks. There really is a fairly small group of these men leading this in the UK, isn’t there? So many of them (Fae being a classic case) who have shown themselves to be deeply porn addled or similar.

PronounssheRa · 29/07/2024 14:11

EasternStandard · 29/07/2024 14:06

I’m assuming the people who donated were very keen to let children use puberty blockers

Their intentions were poor and money lost, at least it’s not tax payers covering this stuff

Tax payers will be covering the government's costs though.

I dread to think how much the GLP has cost the public purse to date.

mrshoho · 29/07/2024 14:07

Common sense prevails thank goodness.

Good Law Project heading for an entry into the Guinness book of records at this rate. Most cases lost? Most money wasted?

Justme56 · 29/07/2024 14:07

I didn’t realise that Helen Belcher and Jane Fae were involved in TransActual.

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EasternStandard · 29/07/2024 14:06

ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 13:51

they do, sadly from public donations. I think they raised £60K for this one.

I’m assuming the people who donated were very keen to let children use puberty blockers

Their intentions were poor and money lost, at least it’s not tax payers covering this stuff

PronounssheRa · 29/07/2024 14:03

Rummly · 29/07/2024 13:14

Post of the day.

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ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 13:51

EasternStandard · 29/07/2024 13:41

Great news

I didn’t know it was being challenged tbh, who by?

Edit - oh Good law Project, I hope they have to cover all court fees and time

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they do, sadly from public donations. I think they raised £60K for this one.

GailBlancheViola · 29/07/2024 13:50

ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 13:39

I've never seen more lies in a row since I last updated my own CV:

https://transactual.org.uk/blog/2024/07/29/statement-on-ruling-in-puberty-blocker-case/

There are no words for that utter bullshit of a statement.

EasternStandard · 29/07/2024 13:41

Great news

I didn’t know it was being challenged tbh, who by?

Edit - oh Good law Project, I hope they have to cover all court fees and time

ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 13:40

Igmum · 29/07/2024 13:39

Very good news. But how on earth do we deal with the idiots online without being repressive? Those arguments are so incredibly damaging to vulnerable children

You can't discuss anything on Reddit, it's an echo chamber where only people who's opinions line up rise to the top of the discussion.

It's a genuine regressive circlejerk where no new ideas or discussions ever happen.

Igmum · 29/07/2024 13:39

Very good news. But how on earth do we deal with the idiots online without being repressive? Those arguments are so incredibly damaging to vulnerable children

ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 13:39

I've never seen more lies in a row since I last updated my own CV:

https://transactual.org.uk/blog/2024/07/29/statement-on-ruling-in-puberty-blocker-case/

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/07/2024 13:36

Its the claims of life saving treatment that annoys me so much. Decent therapy would be life saving but they aren't pushing for that. Its just medical affirmation that they want.

Justwrong68 · 29/07/2024 13:31

Imagine coming out for sterilising children

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/07/2024 13:28

Great news.

WickedSerious · 29/07/2024 13:27

So many unhappy little bunnies.

NoWordForFluffy · 29/07/2024 13:22

Time for Wes to get the ban implemented permanently now, ASAP.

Rummly · 29/07/2024 13:14

PronounssheRa · 29/07/2024 11:29

Another 'deeply technical' win for Jolyon and the good law project?

Post of the day.

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ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 12:31

nauticant · 29/07/2024 12:11

The Good Law (sic) Project responds:

https://x.com/GoodLawProject/status/1817875899083100588

"Who can reply?
Accounts @GoodLawProject follows or mentioned can reply"

theilltemperedclavecinist · 29/07/2024 12:30

The relevant parts of the press summary:

The First Defendant was entitled to conclude, under section 62 of the Medical Act 1968
(“MA 1968”), that it was “necessary to make the Order in the interests of safety”
(subsection (1)), and that it was “essential to make the order with immediate effect to
avoid serious danger to health” (subsection (3)).

Under section 62 Medical Act 1968, there is an exemption from the consultation
requirements when the emergency procedure is followed, as it was in this case. In those
circumstances, a duty to consult could not be implied. On the evidence, the First
Defendant did not undertake a voluntary “consultation”.

The absence of a consultation did not breach the Second Claimant’s procedural rights
under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

TLDR: Judge believes Cass. The law says no consultation is needed for an emergency order. Judge says human rights what now?

fromorbit · 29/07/2024 12:19

JM raised £60,329 for this dodgy case. A lot of money invested in utter failure which not only ended up safeguarding kids, BUT discredited the bullshit trans suicide myth as well. Plus weakening the TA in the internal battle inside Labour.

Plus once again showing that Trans Activist claims fail in court.

JM is Operation Let The Speak's biggest success story.

Labour Pains blog have used the evidence of JM's dodgy grifting and bias to raise complaints

In light of the above, I have renewed my complaint about the GLP’s ‘Puberty blockers ban’ crowdfunder, and its promotion by Jolyon Maugham and the GLP, made to the Advertising Standards Authority on 7 June (ASA ref: A24-1248491). And, on the advice of the ASA, I have reported the matter to Trading Standards via Citizens Advice.
I have also made a formal complaint about Jolyon Maugham to the Bar Standards Board (BSB ref: 0FAD3306). In my complaint, I suggest that Maugham may have: broken the law by committing a serious criminal offence (obtaining money by false representation); acted dishonestly; acted without integrity, including by failing to disclose a personal (family) interest; and behaved in a way which is likely to diminish the trust and confidence which the public places in them or in the profession.
And I have reported the matter to the police via the Action Fraud reporting portal (crime reference number: NFRC240706792775).
To be clear, I don’t expect any of these agencies to act on my complaints – my lived experience is that they are all chocolate teapots (and in some cases the chocolate is very poor quality). But there may eventually come a time when they have to account for their inaction.
https://labourpainsblog.com/2024/07/23/jolyon-maugham-v-trump-putin-and-er-wes-streeting/

Jolyon Maugham v Trump, Putin and, er, Wes Streeting

As previously reported on this blog, on 5 June, having already crowdfunded more than £20,000 in May for legal advice on challenging NHS correspondence with parents of trans-identifying yo…

https://labourpainsblog.com/2024/07/23/jolyon-maugham-v-trump-putin-and-er-wes-streeting

PronounssheRa · 29/07/2024 12:18

nauticant · 29/07/2024 12:11

The Good Law (sic) Project responds:

https://x.com/GoodLawProject/status/1817875899083100588

To summerise. The ban was brought in without expertise or consultation and they frame it as political interference in healthcare.

They don't see Cass as an expert 🙄

nauticant · 29/07/2024 12:11

The Good Law (sic) Project responds:

https://x.com/GoodLawProject/status/1817875899083100588

Windymoore · 29/07/2024 12:11

ErebusTheBearerOfTheWord · 29/07/2024 11:38

Its truly bizarre to think only 29 years ago these sorts of outbursts would have been seen clearly as outbursts of either poor adjustment or poor mental health,and obviously needed help. Ridiculous how we've got here do damn fast

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2024 12:09

@StealthSpinach was just going to post that. There's so much misinformation just on the little bit of the reddit thread that I bothered to look at. Streeting and Co. need to sort out the loopholes and, while they're at it, do something about trans misinformation on line. Criminalise parents/carers who break the law to drug the children in their care if necessary, ie. by taking the kids abroad. They're supposed to do it in cases of FGM. What's the difference if the M is drug induced rather than surgical?