olympics question

Yes, because as we all know, having PCOS or a tumour really leaves you healthy enough to play top level football in the US over the last 12 months and score goals in the Olympics football tournament 🙄

If it was only testosterone, and Banda had returned a level of, say, 5 nmol/l, which might indicate a 46XX DSD then there would have been clarification of the chromosomes and condition, confirmation that Banda is female, and Banda would have passed the female sex verification test.

What you’re suggesting is that Banda failed the verification test purely on a slightly high testosterone level without any further checks. This is not what happens. Testosterone levels are the trigger for further testing, that is, chromosomes. Furthermore, if further testing reveals a person to be 46XX, there is no requirement to take testosterone suppressing medication. That Banda was required to do so indicates he is male, because only males with 46XY DSDs are required to take testosterone suppressing medications.

You’ll be telling us Semenya is a woman next I imagine.

I’ll admit it’s not a male who is trans. But the implications are the same in terms of sporting fairness. You’ll also note from the BBC article that three other Zambian players also failed and were excluded, and we don’t know if they’re in Paris because we don’t know who they were. The differing rules in differing competitions explain how it has been allowed.

@puffyisgood
I hope you're right that Mboma hasn't qualified.

There are no female athletes being smeared, so you can rest easy.

@SabrinaThwaite

Can you explain how a female could exhibit male levels of testosterone?

Congenital diseases, even PCOS, some tumours.

One is Quinn who is a natal female who identifies as non binary. Another is Nikki Hiltz who is another natal female identifying as non binary. They are both competing in the correct sex class ie female so there is no cheating going on.

Can you explain how a female could exhibit male levels of testosterone?

We need to name and shame these cheats, hopefully if it picks up enough momentum they'll be forced to withdraw.

@NotBadConsidering

Did you read the article? If Banda was female, then during the verification test that would have been established and he wouldn’t have failed the test. You can’t fail a verification test of being female if you’re female. The only way you can fail is if you’re male.

I read it. If the test was a blood test looking for testosterone levels, then Banda would fail. Being male is not the only way to fail a test like this.

I don't enjoy the deliberate smearing of female athletes like this. You do yourselves no favours.

Google laurel hubbard

Reporting he was taking part

H was on Twitter saying what? Or do you mean Twitter reports they are taking part?

A heavyweight weight lifter from New Zealand surname name began with H I recall was on Twitter this morning reposted by WRN

Did you read the article? If Banda was female, then during the verification test that would have been established and he wouldn’t have failed the test. You can’t fail a verification test of being female if you’re female. The only way you can fail is if you’re male.

It could have been so much more classy.

The women statues were great but the artistry was a tad cheap.

Lovely seeing celine and ballon was fab.

The balloon reminded me of odilon redon's ballon eye . No idea if it was supposed to....

Sorry, I missed the part in the op about trans in brackets and just saw men. Banda is a male. So same problem regardless.

No. Banda failed sex testing previously. Banda is not female, but a male with a DSD.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/62057259.amp

I think we should stop pretending that there are women with ‘naturally high testosterone.’

‘It's highly likely that there are a couple tucked away somewhere, yes.’

😂😂😂 excellent!

Haven't we been through this? Banda is female, with higher testosterone levels. This could be due to congenital disease. Stop.

Isn't Barbra Banda an athlete with a dsd rather than trans which is a different issue.

Barbra Banda playing football for Zambia

https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/62057259

They're not banned, there are restrictions on taking part in some cases and in others it's on a case by case basis.

www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/paris-2024-olympics-transgender-athletes-b2582038.html

I've found mention of 2 both are natal females who are non binary and in women's events so qualify under their natal sex. I can't find any mention of anyone transgender competing in the opposite sex class.

Apparently they're banned from competing in their desired sex. Will have to check.

Yes!