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How far would put your convictions/beliefs first?

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Eart · 25/07/2024 10:34

Would you stick to your beliefs even if it meant losing family?
Ie, you don't accept pronouns changes but you accept female name and make an effort to buy more female cards/gifts etc, compliment hair/make up etc of child

But you've been told that by not using female pronouns or accepting the person whole as a female you'll be cut out of their lives (and lose all your other neices/nephews)

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 25/07/2024 11:24

Brefugee · 25/07/2024 11:13

it's difficult. My immediate reaction would be to use their name as often as needed rather than pronouns. Name? well names don't bother me because i cba with gender stereotypes.

gifts? what's your usual thing. With me and sibling it is either money to get something they choose for themself, that they want, or if they ask for a specific thing and it's in budget, i get that. I would probably hold my nose and buy what they ask for, but if they don't ask they get money and can please themselves.

I wouldn't want to be cut off from my family unless they were really dreadful people.

edited as realised it's a niece/nephew. Same really i guess.

Edited

When do you think you’d need to use pronouns though? Certainly not when you're actually talking to the person.

Soontobe60 · 25/07/2024 11:23

I wouldn’t start to treat a male as if they were female and vice versa. I wouldn’t go so far as to tell them they are not the ‘gender’ they think they are, but neither would I go along with their delusions. Just like I wouldn't pander to someone with anorexia and encourage them to continue to believe they’re overweight or need to lose more weight. Neither would I tell them they’re too thin!
Honesty is so so important towards people with a mental illness, not collusion.

mirrorwritin · 25/07/2024 11:17

I would put personal relationships first every time. I also think that some flexibility might actually help people see your pov in the longer term- falling out about this sort of thing just entrenches people’s positions.

Brefugee · 25/07/2024 11:13

it's difficult. My immediate reaction would be to use their name as often as needed rather than pronouns. Name? well names don't bother me because i cba with gender stereotypes.

gifts? what's your usual thing. With me and sibling it is either money to get something they choose for themself, that they want, or if they ask for a specific thing and it's in budget, i get that. I would probably hold my nose and buy what they ask for, but if they don't ask they get money and can please themselves.

I wouldn't want to be cut off from my family unless they were really dreadful people.

edited as realised it's a niece/nephew. Same really i guess.

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