Will US Democrats support a WOC as their candidate or will they by pass Kamala Harris?

Don't even get me started on the right wing media. So truthful.

Biden's cognitive impairment has been continuously reported on by right wing media since before the 2020 election. Most of the (left) mainstream media and the democratic party have been complicit in covering this up even as he has got progressively worse. "Sharp as a tack", they say. Harris has been actively participating in the cover up and continues to lie about his health. The debate revealed the truth to the American people: that the government has been lying to them and the media as well. It is no surprise they find this hard to accept. Some must be going through the stages of grief. Joe Biden looks like he is dying and it is a travesty how he is being propped up, dressed up and flown around to public appearances. Polls show the American people are unimpressed with Harris. Her word salad speeches are cringe worthy rather than inspiring. She doesn't seem to have demonstrated leadership skills either, despite being VP to a very sick president.

Her policies are pretty similar to Biden's - everyone knows that. She won't go into minute detail until she's actually nominated.

So, speaking as a Democratic voter who is somewhat politically active, though I live in a heavily Democratic area (DC suburbs; Trump is a threat to a lot of people's jobs).

A lot of people were not convinced that Biden has dementia rather than just being old and tired. I have a child who stutters and several friends who are speech therapists and we all agreed that some of his issues were disfluencies rather than dementia. People don't know how to spot those unless they are familiar with them. The media also ran the story into the ground to the point of making many people angry at them instead of Biden. I know at least a dozen people who cancelled their New York Times subscriptions over it, and other outlets too.

There's no process for picking an alternative that would be any fairer. Americans don't want party insiders picking the candidate; it's not how it's been done here for a long time. Everyone in the Democratic Party is haunted by the contested convention of 1968 and how that election turned out, so no one wants it to go to that. Harris has a better claim to popular legitimacy than anyone else, since she at least got votes for being Vice-President. And say what you want about identity politics, but passing over a specific Black/Asian woman would look terrible.

Biden won in 2020 not because people loved him so much, but because people were tired of Trump and Covid mismanagement, and some of those people have amnesia now. A big part of winning is actually making sure the base actually votes in key states, not just chasing a small and elusive pool of swing voters. Kamala is absolutely animating Black women, who are the Democrats' most reliable voters. She's an Alpha Kappa Alpha from Howard and the entire Divine Nine have announced an effort to support her campaign. There was a lot of tiredness about Biden going around.

The Republicans got caught off guard by the announcement. Yesterday they were resorting to making fun of Harris for liking Venn diagrams.

Platform? Honestly we know roughly what it will be. Similar to Biden.

If she doesn’t think she can do that with her policies then that is also concerning.

I realise that and I remain shocked, firstly at the lengths Biden's team must have gone to in order to deceive their own voters, secondly at the humiliations they've subjected Biden himself to, and thirdly at the apparent reluctance of some Democrat supporters to even say, 'What the actual fuck were you playing at?'

I'm getting concerned that we might be losing sight of the very thing we're supposed to be trying to defend.

I'd also like to know more about her actual policies but she can't directly campaign to be President yet as she hasn't been formally nominated as a candidate. I'd presume that if/when she is nominated is the time for her to set out her policies. For now, the most pressing thing is that Dems have to be convinced she can beat Trump so they can get behind her.

I'm just reporting on what I've seen - as in people saying they'd vote for anyone the Dems nominated - and clearly to a lot of voters a Trump presidency is by far the most dangerous prospect.

He has not been found guilty of any of those things. He was found guilty of false accounting by recording payments to his lawyer as legal advice rather than as onward payments to another party. The rest might seem obvious, as obvious as Biden’s cognitive decline, but he has not been found guilty of those things. Perhaps why Harris only inferred the relationship between ‘his type’ and those activities. But such name calling doesn’t take us anywhere. We know what Trump is like, those who disagree will ignore. Republicans will respond in kind. We are told nothing positive about what she intends to do as president. It is depressing because Presidents should be chosen because you think they can do good, not because you hate the other guy.

If he has the right to stand then it is up to people to decide to vote against him. Questions over a coup should have been addressed through the courts and if found guilty should have banned him from political office. As they didn’t, intense dislike/concern for his policies is not enough reason to stop him standing. I would like to think the Republican’s would be in a better position now with a different candidate but Trump knows how to appeal to a lot of Americans.

I think 'whatever it takes' is very, very dangerous thinking.

Speaking as a Democrat supporter and absolutely against Trump.

It's simple. A massive swathe of voters see Trump as the biggest threat to democracy in American history and so their focus is defeating him whatever it takes. It's a binary choice between him and a Democratic nominee, and so anything said about the Democrats needs to be countered in case it affects that key objective which is to stop Trump becoming president. To millions who are completely terrified of a Trump presidency, this is a completely urgent situation with more at stake than any previous election.

Once again, diverting the discussion to the Republican party.

I would never vote for Trump and, for what it's worth I was, until the last election a dyed in the wool Labour voter. However I think the most toxic and dangerous of all Trump's legacies is the way some Democrat supporters now appear unable or unwilling to ask questions of their own party's behaviour, or hold them to account. I think the way they tried to cover up Biden's failing health was an absolute disgrace, not to mention unbelievably cruel to him.

How was what she said name calling? All those things are on the legal record. Biden's cognition isn't.

The republicans name calling of Biden’s cognition was based in fact too. But it is still depressing that Harris starts her presidential campaign with mud slinging. ‘The other side does it too/more/worse’ doesn’t make it less depressing.

At least it's based in fact unlike the disgusting Republic name-calling

How about his encouragement of the attempted coup on 6th January 2021? Was that democratic?

A majority of delegates to the Democratic convention have declared for her. That makes her the presumptive nominee. The delegates are elected in the state primaries. There's no time to redo the primaries, so those delegates will choose the nominee.

Well 2,688 delegates have endorsed her so far so it's hardly a risible number seeing as a candidate only needs 1,976 votes to secure a nomination. The clincher in one way is that all the other potential strong candidates said they wouldn't be running within hours of Biden's announcement.

Given the confusion over the past month, I imagine the firmness of the endorsement and the subsequent show of unity is welcomed by a lot of party members. They can wait until 19th August but I don't see it likely that there will be any other viable candidates.

Trump fought the primaries and won. That is democracy.

And the breathtaking arrogance of the Republicans in nominating Trump, a sexual predator, instigator of an actual coup and disgusting rip-off merchant? What was democratic about January 6th? I reckon that will be somewhat more prominent in the history books.

As Biden's VP, she stayed loyal to him. That's an admirable quality. He hasn't given a reason for withdrawing. They let it play out and hopefully laughed themselves silly at the Republicans only strategy as seen at their convention - denigrating Biden for his age and condition.

As the Republican Nikki Haley said to her party - if you nominate Trump, you end up with President Harris.

It seems an odd case for republicans to try to make. On the otherhand, if I was a member of the Democratic Party, I would be furious at the anointment of Harris by the party elite without party members being asked. I saw Harris stating she was the nominee and had the support. But on what basis did she say that? Surely it needs to go to the democratic conference first and for the state reps to decide, not just mega fund raisers and party elite?

That is depressing. Only a presumptive nominee one day and rather than presenting proper arguments and ideas she resorts to name calling.