Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust

In Hannah Barnes' Time to Think book I think it said the Tavistock stopped testing for DSDs as it never came up. He is using it as an excuse. Some people with DSDs don't know until later and they don't get periods
/ can't have children

@DSDaisy 😡😡😡 indeed

I understand that the BBC retained their LGBT etc "journalists" (I use the word with caution) during their last rounds of redundancies. Yet these specialist "journalists" appear to have missed virtually all the court cases, the debates, the tension between trans demands and women's rights, the safeguarding issues in relation to schools etc - or maybe they're too hard for them to report? But they have spent many hours of journalism reporting and publicising on the deep and meaningful contributions that men dressed as parodies of women make to society.

x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/1814329690980540841

One of my guilty pleasures is "Bargain-loving Brits in the sun" and it seems every gay restauranteur on the Costas moonlights as a drag queen. Between them and the Almost Angelic type keyboard and singer acts, I wonder if there's any other type of entertainment.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=836011518438914

The 12 pages is just up to last year, in fact that's a conservative estimate. See for yourself.

Joan Smith has written about this in Unherd. I got sidetracked and lost the link 😬sorry.

Anyway, she wrote that LOJ has been tweeting about PBs and suicide. I thought he'd jacked in gender for Gaza. Does anyone know if he's backtracked following the report by Prof. Appleby?

Over what time period? Drag queens have been around since before the internet so that’s potentially a quarter of a century or so the BBC website could have stories about them, whereas the Cass report was commissioned, what, three years ago so even if the BBC reported regularly on it while it was ongoing, the drag queens will have a head start.

Not disagreeing that the BBC has a weird obsession with drag, btw, just wondering about your methodology.

Oh I quite liked that article about drag Queens as it made it so clear there is a massive oversupply of them.

People's expectation of a drag show currently = multiple expensive costumes.

Drag artist income = £100 a show if they are lucky.

I suspect a lot of drag performers giving up as it isn't a viable mass entertainment.

Does BBC really think today was the day to write their usual wankery about Drag Queens?

I just idly searched the BBC news site for 'drag queens'. There's about 12 pages of stories. I also searched for 'Cass', and filtering the references to Mama Cass, a Port Vale footballer, and others, there's about three pages on her.

These issues are way more complex than just puberty blockers being the answer to prevent suicides - it's ignorant and dangerous to link the two in the way we've seen. Preaching to the converted here mainly, I know.

It's also interesting to note in the most recent national prevention strategy (2023) rates across all young people <25 have been increasing - particularly so for females. Although this is now levelling off, it is still a priority area of concern. Another reason why accurate recording of sex is important.

Remember that any website or social media sight sharing information or comments that may lead to the harm of children or vulnerable people is liable for those comments and information in law.

It falls foul of the Online Safety Act.

I wonder if spreading the social contagion of suggesting suicide rates will increase is covered? It would strike me that it should be.

This is wanting the trans community to come to harm to prove the point of allies....

@PriOn1 Exactly this:
The most sickening thing is that this is a manufactured psychological phenomenon, where children are being told they are likely to commit suicide if they don’t get their way. If there was a natural phenomenon, where children were so distressed about their sex that they committed suicide, it would have been recognized long ago. If there has been a rise in suicide, it is manufactured by those who are pushing the medical model of child transition.

Crap! Can't work out how to bold quote above. Bit below is my comment

As a parent of a child steeped in this bollocks, with a strong gut feeling that the transition your child at all costs message did not stack up, the campaigning of people like JM and institutional capture gave us nowhere to turn for help for our child.

It may be paranoia but what parents are going to present their child to "the authorities" when the approved "treatment" is what it has been? Specially as school and even some trusted (now ex) friends made it clear we were irresponsible bigots for not getting straight on to the GIDs waiting list.

So yeah, I do know what it's like to have been on suicide watch and frisked her room for harmful substances. And it's fucking frightening to find the world seems to have collectively lost its mind.

Thank goodness for Cass and reports like this one.

Such an important point @PriOn1

"There is also no denying the emails I have from terrified parents who are, eg, sleeping on the floor of their child's bedroom to watch over them."

So - who terrified them then, Jolyon?

Why is he so invested in puberty blockers dors anyone know? He’s surely an intelligent man, so he knows the damage they do.

I’m in exactly the same situation @Mirahelp. Horrid to think there are more of us.

All I can say is, these Righteous folx who are apparently so concerned for the lives of distressed children, are really really keen to increase the distress of said children and the contagious danger to those lives.

Or shrugging them all off on his determined Path of Righteousness.

Of course, if the references I’ve seen are correct and he does have a trans child, he has an awful lot of skin in this game.

This bit in particular stood out:

"What you are left with is a need to balance risks - of letting ideologues drive through dangerous measures without public pushback or pointing out that the measures are indeed dangerous"

How can they not see this is what we've been trying to do?

Perhaps there's a space for Joly in the polycule?

The BBC is so weirdly invested in drag queens. It’s the go-to topic to ward off any criticism or debunking of genderism, like saying ten Hail Marys and hoping for the best.