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New EHRC guidelines - women only jobs

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RedToothBrush · 16/07/2024 14:55

Fairplay for women
BREAKING: New EHRC guidance relating to ‘women-only’ job adverts.

“A ‘sex-based’ occupational requirement to be a woman under Schedule 9 cannot include transgender women who have not obtained a GRC” /1
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/guidance/guidance-discriminatory-adverts

We have been calling for this guidance for a long time. We have been reporting rogue employers each time they misuse the law by advertising for ‘self-identifying women’ to fill women-only roles. /2

In March this year EHRC promised to publish new guidance. From now on no employer can say it didn’t understand the rules. /3

This new guidance that makes clear men who self-identity as women are not female and should not be recruited as such. This makes it fairer on the women who apply and the people who rely on a woman being in that role for reasons of privacy, dignity and safety. /4

However this new guidance also says men who change their legal status to female by obtaining a GRC can be recruited into a female role. This highlights the absurdity of a law that expects a woman to waive her need for privacy or safety simple because a man gets a certificate. /5

The new Labour Government wants to make it even easier for men to get these certificates. /6

This is why Starmer must take seriously calls to clarify that sex means biological sex in the Equality Act.

Otherwise when you next ask for a women to perform your intimate exam you might get a man with a certificate doing it. /7

This new guidance is a step in the right direction. It bars the majority of men who identity as women from getting jobs reserved for women. Most transgender males do not have a GRC. But it leaves open a loophole for a small number to access these jobs with a GRC. More progress is needed before this is truly fair on women. /8

https://fairplayforwomen.com/new-guidance-for-employers-on-women-only-jobs/

Guidance on discriminatory adverts | EHRC

This guidance explains what a discriminatory advert is and how to make a complaint if you think you have been discriminated against.

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/guidance/guidance-discriminatory-adverts

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Runor · 16/07/2024 15:27

So the nice, friendly, wouldn’t impose on anyone kind of transwoman is not going to be applying for these roles. We can be fairly sure that any men who are invading intimate female spaces where women are at their most vulnerable are fully aware and intent on doing so. Why does any reasonable person think women don’t deserve protection from this? 😡

UtopiaPlanitia · 16/07/2024 15:16

Talkinpeace · 16/07/2024 15:08

Remember how few men actually have GRCs
(around 3000 of working age across the whole of the UK)

This is a massive change as (for now) it stops self ID into inappropriate places.

THen again with the mess the DVLA and the Passport Office have made of sex markers on legal documents ....

I think the number is more than 3000, since the Tories reduced the cost of the application to £5. In recent interviews, Helen Joyce has mentioned 8000 - 10,000 GRCs having been issued.

I completely agree with you about the unhelpfulness of the DVLA and Passport Office accepting self-ID on official state documents that are frequently used for ID purposes.

Melroses · 16/07/2024 15:14

They are also making the GRC more desirable. A lot of men who thought it was not worthwhile will change their mind.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2024 15:13

Remember how few men actually have GRCs
(around 3000 of working age across the whole of the UK)

They will be making them easier to get, so they will be much more common and it will be considered more likely that a given MTF will have one.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 16/07/2024 15:09

So all jobs are open to both sexes???!

Can the advert exclude those with a GRC? (I thought you could exclude "women" with the protected status of Gender reassignment?)

Talkinpeace · 16/07/2024 15:08

Remember how few men actually have GRCs
(around 3000 of working age across the whole of the UK)

This is a massive change as (for now) it stops self ID into inappropriate places.

THen again with the mess the DVLA and the Passport Office have made of sex markers on legal documents ....

FOJN · 16/07/2024 15:06

Whilst the clarification is welcome it does mean that men with a GRC can apply and plans to make GRC's easier to obtain mean we'll be barely better protected than with self ID.

Is an employer permitted to ask to see a GRC? If not how can it be policed?

The EA needs to clarify that sex means biological sex and not gender identity.

Melroses · 16/07/2024 15:05

It is saying men with a certificate can be women, in services where women are at their most vulnerable and female employees are indicated.

flyingbuttress43 · 16/07/2024 15:04

So essentially, the new guidance says men can be women. Nothing changes except a meaningless piece of paper telling a legally allowed lie.

Melroses · 16/07/2024 15:04

🤬

Thassorl.

RedToothBrush · 16/07/2024 14:56

Also this is your regular reminder that Mridul Wadhwa is still in a job and does not have a GRC.

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