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FFS disability is now on the pride flag

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sashh · 16/07/2024 08:58

I'm livid. I'm disabled and I do not want to be represented on the LGBTQ+ flag.

Also this quote: Dayna Halliwell (she/her), Content and Engagement Manager at Evenbreak, led the collaboration and organised the Pride visit. She said: “It was very moving and amazing to see the reaction of disabled people in the audience. You could see the joy on their faces of being represented in the parade.”

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride/

New Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag unveiled at London Pride

Image description: Evenbreak team members in pink t-shirts carry the new Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag in the London Pride Parade alongside Valentino Vechietti, dressed in white. Photo credit: Ma…

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride

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Garlickest · 16/07/2024 09:31

"a disability-inclusive version of Valentino’s Inclusive Pride flag to represent LGBTIQA+ disabled people."

Aha! So this new token is really for trans people with disabilities. No doubt front-loading the transabled grifters, for whom disability is an identitee and are thus more disabled than disabled people.

CatMumSlave · 16/07/2024 09:28

horseymum · 16/07/2024 09:27

If only so much effort was made to make things accessible for disabled people ( whether gay or not), that would make a massive difference to a huge number of people.

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horseymum · 16/07/2024 09:27

If only so much effort was made to make things accessible for disabled people ( whether gay or not), that would make a massive difference to a huge number of people.

CatMumSlave · 16/07/2024 09:27

@SonicTheHodgeheg

LGB and TQ are different things too. The former are sexual identities and the latter are gender identities which are not the same at all.

This is what I don't get. Why group them all?

needsomewarmsunshine · 16/07/2024 09:27

Over hyped and totally stupid now, I support Pride [2 dc] but there is a limit.

CervixSampler · 16/07/2024 09:27

Fuck that shit. Neither my disabled mum nor I want any part of that. It's not part of our identity. The flag is basically a dulux colour chart of meaningless shades of nonsense with only 3 actual recognisable colours that anyone knows what they are (LGB) with any certainty. It might as well be called an everyone flag and it will lose any meaning whatsoever.

Myalternate · 16/07/2024 09:26

So, which demographic are excluded?

horseymum · 16/07/2024 09:26

If you're disabled and white hetrosexual, you're excluded I think!

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/07/2024 09:25

I one saw a piss take that someone had done of how the Pride flag might look in the future. It even had the McDonalds logo and Rick Astley (Rickrolling) on it.

BlackeyedSusan · 16/07/2024 09:24

You can't see much rainbow, it's almost like they are trying to cover up gay people.

Disabled and don't want to be associated with this ablist shit that is intent on sterilising autistic girls

horseymum · 16/07/2024 09:24

There is a separate disability pride flag which is not sexuality but celebrating disability. I appreciate not everyone wants to celebrate their disability, but some people do. I had to get my work to change their FB pic from the standard pride flag for disability pride month as they hadn't clocked the difference. I'm neither gay nor disabled but I think the disabled bit in the flag is for gay disabled people but I agree, does this mean they weren't welcome before? Who else has been missed out?

Rainbowsponge · 16/07/2024 09:24

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 16/07/2024 09:22

It's just a bit weird. Pride specifically is about LGB (and later T) rights - it was to ensure gay rights were celebrated, surely it's diluting the message. It's not about equality for everyone, it's about equality for gay people.

I understand intersectionality but you don't need to add something to a flag for a load of people who don't fit into the specific group in the first place. Surely you just try and advocate for disabled gay people?

They’d say they’re being inclusive etc but to me they’re just trying to get the numbers up and feel like their power is further reaching. They are a gay/trans rights group. They don’t know enough about disability to advocate for it.

Garlickest · 16/07/2024 09:23

Oh, bloody hell, now I don't know if I'm included in the inclusivity for being disabled, not-included for being a 'cis' white heterosexual, or excluded for being a terf 🤔

Have they included or excluded old people yet? That could clarify my inclusivity status! Or not.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 16/07/2024 09:22

It's just a bit weird. Pride specifically is about LGB (and later T) rights - it was to ensure gay rights were celebrated, surely it's diluting the message. It's not about equality for everyone, it's about equality for gay people.

I understand intersectionality but you don't need to add something to a flag for a load of people who don't fit into the specific group in the first place. Surely you just try and advocate for disabled gay people?

SonicTheHodgeheg · 16/07/2024 09:22

elliejjtiny · 16/07/2024 09:18

Because disability and LGBTQ are completely different things. It would be like having a flag for disabled people and vegetarians.

Also I don't feel like celebrating my disability most of the time.

LGB and TQ are different things too. The former are sexual identities and the latter are gender identities which are not the same at all.

Gemmy96 · 16/07/2024 09:21

Surely to God there are more important things to worry about

BeachRide · 16/07/2024 09:20

Signalbox · 16/07/2024 09:17

I don’t understand why the rainbow doesn’t already include disabled gay people. Does adding disabled people mean they weren’t included before?

The rainbow is almost completely covered over now 🙄

CatMumSlave · 16/07/2024 09:19

Baking = Making **

Waitingfordoggo · 16/07/2024 09:18

Justme56 · 16/07/2024 09:12

I thought the initial rainbow flag was meant to represent everyone - regardless of any other characteristics. Obviously some people think that it didn’t.

I thought this when they added the black and brown stripes to include people of colour. Surely the original flag would have included all LGBT people? Weird if it didn’t!

elliejjtiny · 16/07/2024 09:18

JohnnyAndTheDead · 16/07/2024 09:03

Why not?

Because disability and LGBTQ are completely different things. It would be like having a flag for disabled people and vegetarians.

Also I don't feel like celebrating my disability most of the time.

CatMumSlave · 16/07/2024 09:17

The original LBGT flag was fine but now it's just too confusing and baking a mockery out of it all.

Signalbox · 16/07/2024 09:17

I don’t understand why the rainbow doesn’t already include disabled gay people. Does adding disabled people mean they weren’t included before?

Hoardasurass · 16/07/2024 09:16

Well I'm disappointed but not surprised as they've had an autism pride flag for a while, having effectively made it a condition that anyone can self-id into, in the same way that they have with being a woman. It was only a matter of time before they came for all disabilities, especially when you consider that scot gov and several other woke bodies have been asking people if they identify as disabled rather than if they are for quite some time now.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 16/07/2024 09:16

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

Shall we include race? Language? Minority language groups should be considered too.

The pride flag was about sexual orientation. When you stick disability in to whitewash having included fetish, then you're doubling down on the mistake.

ThePoshUns · 16/07/2024 09:14

QAOPspaceman · 16/07/2024 09:08

At least this takes it one step closer to collapsing under the weight of its own bullshit

Quote if the day. Eventually we will all be ' othered' there will be no others.

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