FFS disability is now on the pride flag

Same here and bi. Just wtf.

Yanbu

Surely if you are disabled and gay you would be on the pride flag anyway. Im waiting for them to add Gingers to it now. ( not a rhyming slang)👩‍🦰.

Agree as a gay woman I also steer clear of the whole thing as I think it's become quite toxic and too much fighting within the community.

The flag is also beginning to look ridiculous now. The whole thing is getting out of hand.

Well she clearly got that idea from Stonewall and all the other organisations who have decided homosexuality is so 1990s and gender ideology is so on trend.

Don't blame that poster. Blame the lobbying organisations who decided there was no longer enough money in same-sex attracted people so moved their focus elsewhere.

Its pretty clear from many replies on this thread than many people no longer have any idea what Pride was about and just see it vaguely as being 'something about diversity.'

An answer, no doubt, to the protestations that inclusivity only works when it relates to natal males coopting women's spaces, sports and medical language, whilst in the meantime no one gives a shit about disabled people. Nor about commandeering their lavatory facilities as 'third spaces'. And once that unpleasant and inconvenient fact is pointed out, well surprise surprise! Disabled folks have been 'queered' - whether they want to be or not - and now have their very own place on the gaudy Pride flag.

The cynicism and self-interest is breathtaking.

I am a bisexual woman. I have two different disabilities: completely hidden from plain sight but both of which have a very real and life-changing impact on me on a daily basis.

Nothing about that offensive flag, with all the hateful misogynistic and homophobic rhetoric it now embodies, in any way represents me.

Disability has nothing to do with sexuality?

Trans is gender identity. Queer encompasses more. Some people who may be, for example, non binary, but there are many MANY who identify as queer who are CIS.

So you agree that queer CAN be considered a gender identity too then? Why are you arguing it isn’t and ignoring the wealth of evidence from the claims of people in the world who say it is?

Why does ANYONE need a flag, to represent what they get up to in the bedroom?

What if you only like sex with one legged people? Where's the stripe for that? What if you only want sex with people with big hands? Where's the stripe for that? Ad infinitum, suddenly you have a flag with a gazillion stripes.

How about we all grow the fuck up?

News flash. NO ONE CARES. Whatever you like, you like, and nothing about that makes you a special person who needs a flag. Unless you're 12.

Fucking flags. The whole thing is ridiculous.

It's hard enough having an invisible disability

Actually that is exactly the type of disability things like this are wanting to include as it won't upset their Instagram like people in wheelchairs, or missing limbs, or blind* or deaf or with severe cognitive disorders would.

*Presumably this initiative "includes" gay and bi guide dogs. I so hope we are against the tyranny of speciesism.

Christ on ice,this hurt my brain.

Your niece is bisexual. She just wants to be more interesting.

Stonewall's definition of 'queer' is now
"Queer is a term used by those wanting to reject specific labels of romantic orientation, sexual orientation and/or gender identity. It can also be a way of rejecting the perceived norms of the LGBT community (racism, sizeism, ableism etc)."

(Note the second sentence.)

The LGBTQ+ Wiki defines queer as
"an identifier for individuals who are not exclusively heterosexual in their sexual orientation, who use it in reference to their gender identity and/or gender expression".

Ah I remember watching this a while back. He was brilliant

Trans is gender identity. Queer encompasses more. Some people who may be, for example, non binary, but there are many MANY who identify as queer who are CIS.

One example. My niece. Always been in relationships with men, but then fell in love with a woman. She considers herself queer as she isn't attracted to women, just this one woman. She feels that Bi doesn't equal simply being attracted to one woman. This may be the only same sex relationship she ever has.
Another friend who only has same sex relationships, but has had flings with opposite sex, trans and non binary. So he calls himself queer.
A group of friends who are in the BDSM community consider themselves queer, as they're not entirely straight, but only in connection to BDSM, so they don't' consider themselves gay.

I know people who identify as queer because they don't fit the gay or bi box

You mean they are straight/heterosexual? That is the only other option.

Thank you for sharing this. Every time anyones kids school starts pushing this shit we need to email this to the safeguarding team

100% this! It’ll be like EadyJet priority boarding soon with any luck.

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY JOKING!!!!

No. It's hard enough having an invisible disability without the added association of this madness. Now disability will be added in with the self id crowd. Why? Whose brilliant idea was this?

I was seriously considering wearing a disabled badge on my jacket to forgo assumptions being made about my physical ability when I don't look unwell, but I won't bother now if it's going to be taken as a declaration of self I.D. and associated with Pride.

Here we go. Don’t agree with you so must be homophobic. The pride flag is not inclusive. It is highly divisive. No wonder some people don’t want to be associated with it.

This was awesome. Do we know what the event was supposed to be about? He’s talking about the dangers of anarchy, and queer theory because of their intrinsic endorsement of paedophilia.

The hecklers are shouting about trans rights and transphobia. What caused TRAs to link themselves with paedophilia by heckling that discussion?

When was it and who is he? It looks older than I think it is.

That's a good (and worrying point) especially when some people will undoubtedly identify as being disabled rather than actually having a disability. And don't get me started on those nutters who have amputations etc for no reason.
Maybe this new addition is also geared towards them?

It will be an onion ring or a misshapen carrot with a penis. It is always either a hole or a bulge so to speak.

No, that’s not what was claimed. Here is the post you quoted:

TemuSpecialBuy · Today 09:37

CatMumSlave · Today 09:27
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LGB and TQ are different things too. The former are sexual identities and the latter are gender identities which are not the same at all.

This is what I don't get. Why group them all?
To legitimise fetishists and AGPs and probably a couple of paedos too who want to push boundaries and normalise themselves in wider society”

The post was about how everything is grouped together to blur the boundaries. The boundaries between sexuality, gender identity, and age of consent.

You don’t think “queer” is a gender identity. No one can explain what “queer” is then.