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Simple request for 'gender critical' activists

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NoShortKing · 15/07/2024 12:51

I'm registered after an awful incident a few days ago, but I'm glad that it forced me to wait before posting as it's enabled me to be more circumspect about things. I'm trans (booo!) and started transitioning 17 years ago. I'm just a guy in the world, few know I'm trans, nobody cares, as it should be.

The other day I had a health appointment, unrelated to being trans or anything that could be relevant, yet the worker obviously had looked into my medical history, misgendered me (I'm a bald bloke with a beard ffs), asked me clearly inappropriate questions which was obviously from 'gender critical' rhetoric. I ended up leaving and now I have all the palaver of having to go through the practice manager to make a complaint.

Here's a really simple solution, if you're a 'gender critical' activist then realise that it's clearly inappropriate for you to work with trans people and ask for someone else to see them. If I had a problem with the existence of, I don't know, black people, tall people, I don't know, people with tattoos or something, then I would just ask someone else to see them. If in my job I was asked to see someone who was openly 'gender critical' I would just tell my lead that I would not be the best person to see them and she would have no problem with that.

I've talked with loads of people about this and nobody thinks this is unreasonable..and certainly in terms of the NHS something that is completely doable with a group that makes up 0.5% of the population.

Obviously, given that I'm in the hornet's nest, I won't be responding, just will leave that request to think about this if you're in a public facing job.

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Zita60 · 15/07/2024 23:44

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/07/2024 15:43

@NoShortKing - I think it is utterly hypocritical for you to say that trans people should be able to refuse treatment from a healthcare professional because of their beliefs, but trans activists say that no biological woman can insist on having intimate care from another biological female. And lesbians cannot have female only groups, or say that they don’t want penetrative sex from a biological male simply because he has declared himself to be a woman and a lesbian.

Hell, women aren’t allowed female only loos or changing rooms, but you want to discriminate against anyone who doesn’t enthusiastically espouse your (mistaken) belief that humans can change sex.

Exactly!👍

RainWithSunnySpells · 15/07/2024 22:53

Oh flip, a double post. I guess I'll have to eat some goodies as a penance. 🍪

RainWithSunnySpells · 15/07/2024 22:52

I hate this thread and all who post on her. My diet has been torpedoed!

Millionaires Shortbread... nom nom nom.

Catsmere · 15/07/2024 22:50

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DrBlackbird · 15/07/2024 22:49

ErrolTheDragon · 15/07/2024 13:15

This sounds like unfortunately the OP encountered an unprofessional bully and a complaint is justified - but against that individual not gender critical people in general.

Most gender critical feminists are perfectly capable of being professional and courteous (without losing their grip on biological reality when it's relevant).

I agree with @ErrolTheDragon that there may be the possibility that the HCW was rude. If they had negative issues about trans people then they should opt to refer them onto another HCW. The person may just be unpleasant rather than gender critical.

CocoapuffPuff · 15/07/2024 22:35

My Mum used to make little biscuits with custard powder along with the flour. Very light and crisply flaky in texture. I can see custard powder working beautifully in shortbread.

Oh and she did something like Millionaires Shortbread but with a mint cream topping instead of caramel. My sis has her recipe book, I'll have to ask her if that one is in there. It was so bloody good. Like a filling after eight.

Snowypeaks · 15/07/2024 22:23

Some of you are Philistines.
Flour, butter, sugar, salt.
The End.

terryleather · 15/07/2024 22:20

It has never occurred to me that I could make coffee shortbread but now I can think of little else...

XChrome · 15/07/2024 22:06

ChewtonRoad · 15/07/2024 21:59

I think my niece uses Naturli vegan spread for her nondairy shortbread, and it's pretty good, but butter does make it better.

I use custard powder rather than plain cornflour at times to give a bit of vanilla flavour, although ground rice does give that nice crunch. I've also been known to make cardamom shortbread or add orange zest to the plain product and drizzle a bit of plain chocolate over it for extra lushness.

The OP is welcome to take her or his scolding elsewhere and get stuffed.

The chocolate drizzle is fantastic on shortbread.
I have seen candied fruit in it at Xmas and dried cranberries.

ChewtonRoad · 15/07/2024 21:59

I think my niece uses Naturli vegan spread for her nondairy shortbread, and it's pretty good, but butter does make it better.

I use custard powder rather than plain cornflour at times to give a bit of vanilla flavour, although ground rice does give that nice crunch. I've also been known to make cardamom shortbread or add orange zest to the plain product and drizzle a bit of plain chocolate over it for extra lushness.

The OP is welcome to take her or his scolding elsewhere and get stuffed.

HarrytheHobbit · 15/07/2024 21:57

A buttery melt in the mouth shortbread is a thing of beauty.

Waitwhat23 · 15/07/2024 21:56

At the risk of sounding wanky, Waitrose do a very nice coffee shortbread (no walnuts).

TinselAngel · 15/07/2024 21:54

Now I want shortbread.

TinselAngel · 15/07/2024 21:51

I love shortbread.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/07/2024 21:49

Coffee shortbread sans walnuts is just as good, and it is so easy to make, @Barbie222.

Barbie222 · 15/07/2024 21:44

I do wish the walnuts could be left out, you know. I have allergies. But whenever anything's flavoured with coffee.... there they are.

XChrome · 15/07/2024 21:35

BackToLurk · 15/07/2024 20:14

Flora plant butter maybe? Does a pretty good 'buttered' spinach

Probably not available in Canada, or at least not locally. I have never seen it or heard of it.

XChrome · 15/07/2024 21:34

RedToothBrush · 15/07/2024 21:23

I SWEAR by this site for all things sweet vegan / diary free

https://bakedbyclo.com/

Every recipe I've done from it has been excellent. I've not done shortbread, but there is a number of vegan shortbread recipes on it.

Thank you! I'll need to modify recipes for other allergies and to make them gluten and sugar free. Sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't.
I have created recipes for fantastic pies, banana bread and chocolate chip cookies, but my cakes and other cookies need work.

RedToothBrush · 15/07/2024 21:28

(I'm not vegan or diary free. But I've cooked some of these with really good results and had a lot of positive comments from non vegan / diary frees too).

RedToothBrush · 15/07/2024 21:23

XChrome · 15/07/2024 19:18

Has anybody ever made vegan shortbread? Is it even shortbread without butter? I'm allergic to dairy but have never attempted it. I have assumed butter is what gives it that distinctive taste.

I SWEAR by this site for all things sweet vegan / diary free

https://bakedbyclo.com/

Every recipe I've done from it has been excellent. I've not done shortbread, but there is a number of vegan shortbread recipes on it.

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 15/07/2024 21:11

HarrytheHobbit · 15/07/2024 20:36

This is going well for you OP isn't it?

It is if they like shortbread

JanesLittleGirl · 15/07/2024 21:11

DH sometimes makes shortbread. It is horrible, dry and tasteless. He copies his mother's recipe. Her shortbread is also dry and tasteless. I have sent a link to this thread to DH in vainglorious hope that he will produce some edible shortbread.

CocoapuffPuff · 15/07/2024 20:43

mrshoho · 15/07/2024 20:16

There's someone down right cruel on this thread and I'm tempted to name and shame. Posting that filth about something called millionaires shortbread. I can't unsee it and it's just bloody unfair. I haven't even so much as a rich tea in my biscuit tin. What's a girl to do?

Make Millionaires Shortbread, of course.

D'uh.

XChrome · 15/07/2024 20:38

thirdfiddle · 15/07/2024 20:34

My bet is they asked if OP might be pregnant. They ask that of all sorts of inappropriate people including OAPs and (actual) men. The latter thanks in part to the transgender movement itself insisting that medical records be falsified so doctors can't be sure of anyone's sex even if it says M on the record. Though in this case OP is actually female, and we know some TM do actually get pregnant, so it could be appropriate to ask.

Though there are a range of things a doctor might validly ask about that a patient inclined to take offence might take offence about.

Yeah, that could be it.

One of the more bizarre changes has been that abortion clinics started referring to pregnant women as pregnant people so as not to offend the trans community. 🙄
We aren't even allowed to own our own biological reality anymore.

HarrytheHobbit · 15/07/2024 20:36

This is going well for you OP isn't it?