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Simple request for 'gender critical' activists

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NoShortKing · 15/07/2024 12:51

I'm registered after an awful incident a few days ago, but I'm glad that it forced me to wait before posting as it's enabled me to be more circumspect about things. I'm trans (booo!) and started transitioning 17 years ago. I'm just a guy in the world, few know I'm trans, nobody cares, as it should be.

The other day I had a health appointment, unrelated to being trans or anything that could be relevant, yet the worker obviously had looked into my medical history, misgendered me (I'm a bald bloke with a beard ffs), asked me clearly inappropriate questions which was obviously from 'gender critical' rhetoric. I ended up leaving and now I have all the palaver of having to go through the practice manager to make a complaint.

Here's a really simple solution, if you're a 'gender critical' activist then realise that it's clearly inappropriate for you to work with trans people and ask for someone else to see them. If I had a problem with the existence of, I don't know, black people, tall people, I don't know, people with tattoos or something, then I would just ask someone else to see them. If in my job I was asked to see someone who was openly 'gender critical' I would just tell my lead that I would not be the best person to see them and she would have no problem with that.

I've talked with loads of people about this and nobody thinks this is unreasonable..and certainly in terms of the NHS something that is completely doable with a group that makes up 0.5% of the population.

Obviously, given that I'm in the hornet's nest, I won't be responding, just will leave that request to think about this if you're in a public facing job.

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DeanElderberry · 17/07/2024 10:13

Aldi used to have tablet, wonderful stuff. haven't seen it for some years, and am inclined to blame Brexit which has stopped do many UK food exports. And I can see why getting certification for tablet in these health conscious days might be a challenge.

For a nice sugar-free treat, why not potato cakes? Cold mashed potatoes, a pinch of salt, as much flour as they can take to make a solid but pliable dough, patted flat to ca 75mm thick, cut to size, cooked on the pan, eaten with BUTTER!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/07/2024 10:10

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2024 08:34

If we're talking animals, I'm in Portugal and have just seen a van with a logo of an angry looking bumble bee, wielding an oil can.

If you’re in Portugal I raise you Pastéis de nata

Simple request for 'gender critical' activists
CocoapuffPuff · 17/07/2024 10:08

Stoppit!! I'm fat enough!!!

I'm gonna boast now though. My village shop sells the most incredible locally made tablet. I can eat it whenever I want with NO stirring! Yay!!!

which, naturally, is why I'm fat.

Waitwhat23 · 17/07/2024 10:06

AlisonDonut · 17/07/2024 09:38

Hang on, what about Welsh Cakes?

I'm not surprised by the sensitive content filter on that given the presence of (gags) raisins in that receipe.

Chersfrozenface · 17/07/2024 09:43

Welsh cakes, food of the gods.

duc748 · 17/07/2024 09:42

I make Welsh cakes sometimes, in my Le Creuset knock-off lidded frying pan. Which weighs an absolute tonne!

AlisonDonut · 17/07/2024 09:38

Hang on, what about Welsh Cakes?

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Waitwhat23 · 17/07/2024 09:10

Husband makes nice tablet but can't face the constant stirring.

I gave some tablet to an English friend years ago to try and he accused me of trying to poison him (because of the sugar, not the recipe)! 😄

TWETMIRF · 17/07/2024 08:57

Can we stick with Scotland but change to tablet? Any good recipes welcomed as are samples if you wish me to assess your tablet making skills

WandsOut · 17/07/2024 08:48

We need a special recipe for Scolding Scones.

Definitely need treacle in them to seal our mouths shut with delicious goodness.

SinnerBoy · 17/07/2024 08:34

If we're talking animals, I'm in Portugal and have just seen a van with a logo of an angry looking bumble bee, wielding an oil can.

kiterunning · 17/07/2024 08:16

Very helpful and educational post. Thank you!
Apart from the OP obvs.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 17/07/2024 07:55

DeanElderberry · 16/07/2024 10:16

PS has anyone tried adding lemon zest to their shortbread? In there any reason not to?

Yes. It's delicious. HTH.

AlisonDonut · 17/07/2024 07:50

Snowypeaks · 15/07/2024 22:23

Some of you are Philistines.
Flour, butter, sugar, salt.
The End.

Perfect Mumsnet.

Not generalising about sweet treats or naming an individual.
Not specific about how much of each ingredient.
Also chippy.
And a recipe in a drive by scolding.

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FuzzyPuffling · 17/07/2024 07:14

Hedgehog= excellent.

RantyMcRanterton · 16/07/2024 23:32

CocoapuffPuff · 16/07/2024 22:52

Now I've just found a hedgehog on the back doorstep. It's a zoo here.
Still, I made Highlanders so the world is GOOD.

It's a shi-tzu. Oh wait, that's the wrong joke. Grin

CocoapuffPuff · 16/07/2024 22:52

Now I've just found a hedgehog on the back doorstep. It's a zoo here.
Still, I made Highlanders so the world is GOOD.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 16/07/2024 21:55

Apparently the thread has moved on.

And it's a much better thread than anticipated. Thank you ladies!

CocoapuffPuff · 16/07/2024 20:09

To clarify. Just take em out. NOT clean em. Put em out by the road for the bin men to collect.

Maggots ARE repulsive but I've just dealt with a tick that crawled off the cat on my lap onto my hand (he's got more fur than me, it must have been feeling lazy) so I'm feeling all jacked up on adrenaline now. Although I did panic and race through to drop it on a saucer before it bit me and then melt candle wax on it. So...shrugs. It is now an ex-tick. I'm a Great Hunter. Or summat...

DeanElderberry · 16/07/2024 19:59

Don't make rash promises @CocoapuffPuff

I'm sure nothing quite so horrible would happen in @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius 's well run and orderly household, but I had maggots in my bin this week and the HORROR!. Did you know they can climb? The bin wasn't that full but they were all the way up the sides and in a thick layer on the inside of the lid. Very very fortunately today was bin day and most of the got shaken loose and the rest got washed off with water, bleach, more water, a little more water just to be sure, then left in sunshine for several hours.

I've never had such a thing before and am making many good resolutions about what does and doesn't get binned in future and how thoroughly things get wrapped in paper when they go in.

CocoapuffPuff · 16/07/2024 18:57

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/07/2024 13:09

My mum used to do something similar, @CocoapuffPuff - the base of a Millionaire's shortbread, but with a tangy lemon fudge topping - it was gorgeous! I am currently transcribing all her recipes - she kept a file of ones she had handwritten and some she had typed, and when she passed away, I took it, and I'm copying it all so the family can have copies - and I am hoping the lemon fudge recipe is in there.

I love the idea of the crunchy demerara edging to shortbread biscuits - I am going to try that the next time I make them!

As a tangent - has anyone else made Nigella's parmesan shortbreads? I can highly recommend them!

Oooooooooohhhhhh....

faints in anticipation of the lemon recipe being discovered

Please please pleeeeeeeeeeze share it if you do find it!

I'll take your bins out for a month....

SaiSun · 16/07/2024 15:36

NoShortKing · 15/07/2024 12:51

I'm registered after an awful incident a few days ago, but I'm glad that it forced me to wait before posting as it's enabled me to be more circumspect about things. I'm trans (booo!) and started transitioning 17 years ago. I'm just a guy in the world, few know I'm trans, nobody cares, as it should be.

The other day I had a health appointment, unrelated to being trans or anything that could be relevant, yet the worker obviously had looked into my medical history, misgendered me (I'm a bald bloke with a beard ffs), asked me clearly inappropriate questions which was obviously from 'gender critical' rhetoric. I ended up leaving and now I have all the palaver of having to go through the practice manager to make a complaint.

Here's a really simple solution, if you're a 'gender critical' activist then realise that it's clearly inappropriate for you to work with trans people and ask for someone else to see them. If I had a problem with the existence of, I don't know, black people, tall people, I don't know, people with tattoos or something, then I would just ask someone else to see them. If in my job I was asked to see someone who was openly 'gender critical' I would just tell my lead that I would not be the best person to see them and she would have no problem with that.

I've talked with loads of people about this and nobody thinks this is unreasonable..and certainly in terms of the NHS something that is completely doable with a group that makes up 0.5% of the population.

Obviously, given that I'm in the hornet's nest, I won't be responding, just will leave that request to think about this if you're in a public facing job.

Whether the healthcare provider was GC or not is irrelevant. They can ask questions about your history, but not insult you. In the same way that people who hold religious beliefs that do not accept gay people, can not be homophobic to patients. You should give feedback via PALS, so it can be looked into.

StellaAndCrow · 16/07/2024 14:51

I guess it's similar to being a doctor, having a white patient who wants people to believe they're black.

Chersfrozenface · 16/07/2024 14:37

Trans fats - they were all over the media a few years ago, weren't they?

I'm not contributing any recipes as I'm a crap cook. Though I do make a passable Shrewsbury biscuit.

DeanElderberry · 16/07/2024 13:59

Human mental function is flexible enough that it can cope with the non-binary branches and divisions that happen in rambling conversations, written and verbal. Not as easy for AI scrapers and analytical tools. If we want to debate butter versus margarine wrt trans fats we can do that without upsetting any physical person of any sex. Machines may be less happy.