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Spouse says men can use Ladies to change baby nappy?

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Bunty2727 · 14/07/2024 10:52

Im not a mum. I just went into the public toilet (to put up some single sex signs lol) and as I approached a man was just about to enter with a baby, I said excuse me I dont think you are allowed to use the ladies, he replied, pointing at the baby change sign, you can go in first if you like, I repeated, I dont think you can use the ladies, when I came out he had gone. Spouse said Im wrong, he’s allowed. googled and cannot see an answer?

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justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:59

Dumbo12 · 15/07/2024 13:55

Also they will target single mothers to gain access to children, it is a known method of accessing children. Our they will work or volunteer in nurseries etc.

So they remove these babies from nurseries so that they can get access to women's toilets?

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:56

Dumbo12 · 15/07/2024 13:53

They are usually quite capable of procreation.

They must be busy procreating every couple of years to have a baby on tap.

Tell you what share some media articles where it says.

Man takes baby into ladies loo for nappy change and rapes woman

Dumbo12 · 15/07/2024 13:55

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:52

Where do they hire these babies from?

Also they will target single mothers to gain access to children, it is a known method of accessing children. Our they will work or volunteer in nurseries etc.

Coughsweet · 15/07/2024 13:54

Where does this happen? I thought everywhere had to provide a disabled toilet and IME most of the time that’s where the baby changing is. I don’t think I have ever seen anywhere where the was baby changing in the women’s toilets and none in the disabled toilets.

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:54

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:52

Where do they hire these babies from?

Where did John Lockhart get the four month old girl he raped from?

Stepkids, their own kids, relative's kids...

Dumbo12 · 15/07/2024 13:53

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:52

Where do they hire these babies from?

They are usually quite capable of procreation.

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:53

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:50

I promise we had a changing mat and didn't make a mess. I know replacing the felt is very expensive.

It would serve the venue right for not providing a changing table if there had been a poonami all over the felt.

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:52

Dumbo12 · 15/07/2024 13:51

I spent an entire adult working life working with survivors of sexual assault. Some women were abusers, but the vast majority were men, the majority of the survivors were female. The lengths that some of these men will go to, to offend, will surprise some, however the planning and anticipation is often part of what gets these men off. I'm sure some would relish taking a baby girl into the ladies to change her nappy, so many boundaries to breach, all in one go!

Where do they hire these babies from?

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:51

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:27

New York post ROFL

Contemporaneous newspaper cutting https://dks.library.kent.edu/?a=d&d=sks20050615-01.2.6&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------

Dumbo12 · 15/07/2024 13:51

I spent an entire adult working life working with survivors of sexual assault. Some women were abusers, but the vast majority were men, the majority of the survivors were female. The lengths that some of these men will go to, to offend, will surprise some, however the planning and anticipation is often part of what gets these men off. I'm sure some would relish taking a baby girl into the ladies to change her nappy, so many boundaries to breach, all in one go!

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:50

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:48

I nipped into their snooker room and changed him on the table there

As a snooker fan, and knowing how precious snooker venues are about tables, I approve of this direct action.

I promise we had a changing mat and didn't make a mess. I know replacing the felt is very expensive.

FrangipaniBlue · 15/07/2024 13:50

Nosummerontheagenda · 15/07/2024 12:58

It’s a sad thing when a father with a baby is perceived to be a predator. Those of us with sons or husbands in this position ought to have a bit more empathy.

I have both a son and husband and they'd get an earful if I found out they'd been in a female toilet to change a baby rather than using their nouse to come up with a better alternative.

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:48

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:41

In the last few years I've been to two places which were challenging re baby changing.

First RSPB no changing facilities in the ladies bar the floor which was absolutely swimming in something.

Second a nice restaurant no changing facilities at all so I nipped into their snooker room and changed him on the table there

I nipped into their snooker room and changed him on the table there

As a snooker fan, and knowing how precious snooker venues are about tables, I approve of this direct action.

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:47

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:27

New York post ROFL

It actually happened. He was on LiveJournal as "ohbutyouwillpet" and I had a LiveJournal at the time and I remember it being all over LJ.

SilenceInside · 15/07/2024 13:44

"If someone finds it's only in the women's when they're out, then no wonder they have to use that."

No, they don't have to use that. If, for some unknown reason, the only baby change was in the men's toilets, I wouldn't use it. Then I'd complain to the management of the facility about the lack of a separate baby change.

Most places these days have got a separate baby change that's not in either toilet, or in addition to one in the women's. I would imagine that places that still have them only in the women's loos either haven't got the space or money to add another one that's available to men, or they are particularly old-fashioned/unthinking.

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:41

In the last few years I've been to two places which were challenging re baby changing.

First RSPB no changing facilities in the ladies bar the floor which was absolutely swimming in something.

Second a nice restaurant no changing facilities at all so I nipped into their snooker room and changed him on the table there

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:37

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2024 13:35

My 18yr old thinks I'm daft for telling him not to immerse himself in his headphones when he comes home on the train in the early hours of the morning - some people perceive risk differently whether that be by socialisation or experience.

Better to learn by other peoples' mistakes than your own, better still to have the opportunity to learn from that mistake.

I agree with this always keep an ear open which is why I use one earbud low volume.

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2024 13:35

My 18yr old thinks I'm daft for telling him not to immerse himself in his headphones when he comes home on the train in the early hours of the morning - some people perceive risk differently whether that be by socialisation or experience.

Better to learn by other peoples' mistakes than your own, better still to have the opportunity to learn from that mistake.

BeachParty · 15/07/2024 13:34

Christinapple · 14/07/2024 18:15

I was of the understanding baby/family changing facilities are for the use of either parent. Or do people think fathers never go out with their children without the mother being present?

This.
Dad's take their baby out too, they need baby changing facilities available to them too
If someone finds it's only in the women's when they're out,then no wonder they have to use that.
Not seen that though, they're usually separate and unisex.

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:33

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Reported me for what? I've done nothing wrong on this thread.

As for "bored A-level student", I've been here since 2018.

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:32

bittertwisted · 15/07/2024 13:28

Why is not living my life in fear of all men make me 'hand Maiden'
I would rather that than be scared of every possible risk.
I hate the trite 'be kind' label, but if I'm going to be kind I'm not going to discriminate against half the population just because they happen to be male. What an awful way to live .

Over 95% of sexual offending is perpetrated by men. Male sexual assault of women has the risk of leaving the victim pregnant. It's not all men, but it's almost always men. Given that pregnancy is a life-changing consequence for female victims, it makes sense to separate men and women in places where women are undressing, sleeping, or otherwise vulnerable.

Good men understand this and respect female-only spaces.

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:29

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MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:28

Kendodd · 15/07/2024 13:19

Actually this is the only time I would 100% stand in solidarity with men using the ladies. If there's no changing table in the men's, what's he supposed to do? Leave his baby with a shitty nappy?

He can put a blanket on the floor like everyone else.

bittertwisted · 15/07/2024 13:28

Why is not living my life in fear of all men make me 'hand Maiden'
I would rather that than be scared of every possible risk.
I hate the trite 'be kind' label, but if I'm going to be kind I'm not going to discriminate against half the population just because they happen to be male. What an awful way to live .

justasking111 · 15/07/2024 13:27

MaidOfAle · 15/07/2024 13:15

Men have raped babies. https://nypost.com/2005/06/07/vile-perv-bust-raped-infant-cops/ Literally nothing stops them from taking a baby into the loo as a pretext for raping an adult woman.

New York post ROFL