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Slightly Concerning Course Content

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FanFckingTastic · 12/07/2024 17:01

I've had to complete a course at work around discrimination etc.

As part of the course, the topic of gender identity is discussed. The course content says 'It's important to remember that if someone is trans saying "she used to be a man" is not accurate. Trans women are women, and they've never not been a woman. Their gender identity just doesn't align with the sex they were assigned at birth'

The course asks for us to confirm our understanding of this, along with other things. Does anyone have advice? I'm conscious that I have to tread carefully but I feel very uncomfortable....

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 12/07/2024 17:41

It's important to remember that if someone is trans saying "she used to be a man" is not accurate.

I was once told on another talkboard that if it should one day be proven that gender critical feminists were right, we would have been right for the wrong reasons (and therefore still wrong).

The above is an excellent example of being right for the wrong reasons.

SilenceInside · 12/07/2024 17:21

@FanFckingTastic if you are feeling brave you could contact your HR about the course and this question. Reference the relevant recent court cases and explain that the required answer to this questions requires you to state as true something that you have a protected belief about. If your company buys in these courses they need to check they are suitable and match UK (E&W or Scotland etc) law, rather than US based content or activist written content.

SilenceInside · 12/07/2024 17:15

pinkyredrose · 12/07/2024 17:08

You don't believe people can be born in the wrong bodies, that's fine but many people do.

Why is that one belief being given priority over not believing, in a work-related course, especially when that belief is clearly anti-scientific and not based in fact?

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 12/07/2024 17:15

I'm conscious that I have to tread carefully but I feel very uncomfortable....

It's almost as if course providers and employers are continuing to act as if the Forstater and Meade rulings don't exist.

Soontobe60 · 12/07/2024 17:14

pinkyredrose · 12/07/2024 17:08

You don't believe people can be born in the wrong bodies, that's fine but many people do.

Just like many people believe in ghosts….

RoyalCorgi · 12/07/2024 17:14

What next? Do you have to confirm that the earth is flat and there are fairies at the bottom of the garden?

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FanFckingTastic · 12/07/2024 17:14

You don't believe people can be born in the wrong bodies, that's fine but many people do.

I know that. The issue is that I'm being asked to confirm my understanding and agreement. I don't agree and I don't feel comfortable being asked to confirm this position, which is written as if it's a fact rather than an opinion.

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BlueBirdBell · 12/07/2024 17:13

pinkyredrose · 12/07/2024 17:08

You don't believe people can be born in the wrong bodies, that's fine but many people do.

Right out of the 1984 playbook 😆

dementedpixie · 12/07/2024 17:10

People cannot change sex so a man cannot miraculously turn into a women even if he believes he has been born in the wrong body.

pinkyredrose · 12/07/2024 17:08

You don't believe people can be born in the wrong bodies, that's fine but many people do.

KnickerlessParsons · 12/07/2024 17:04

What would happen if you were unable to confirm your understanding?

As I understand it, your employer cannot discriminate against or penalise you for your stance on gender identity.

dementedpixie · 12/07/2024 17:02

Who has provided the course?
Sounds like a load of nonsense

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