Used an 'all genders' bathroom today

‘All’ genders? But there’s only two…this world is nuts

Lavender is bullshitting.

So many women on this board have rarely seen shit all over in womens toilets,yet lavender and a couple other posters have seen this many many times.

Its a lie, and then they say they cant smell the mens. Well either they lost their nose or they are lying again.
I'm going with lying, for what purpose, I could not say without getting deleted.

In my 62 years on this planet I have never come across a women's toilet where every cubicle was covered in shit. Where the hell do you work?

What?? Can't say that's something I've noticed. I'm my last workplace in the female only toilets every cubicle would be smeared with excrement by the end of the day and end up unusable. They didn't smell too great.

I've been in some absolutely disgusting women's bathrooms so I wouldn't say this is specifically a male issue.

Yeah, but the smell certainly is!

Any that I've used have been clean in our local shopping centre. If they're filthy I think that is on the provider to be cleaning them more regularly. I've been in some absolutely disgusting women's bathrooms so I wouldn't say this is specifically a male issue.

We also have a gender neutral bathroom in work. Have never had an issue, it's always clean.

Is that allowed in workplaces? Sounds awful.

SAFC

I'd forgotten about that, it's an excellent term.

I suggest stickering bad loos. Gender neutral toilets are, as we used to say in Another Place, SAFC.

That sounds absolutely revolting. So men can be pissing into a urinal and women are meant to walk past?

Ugh I used one at a workplace where I went to a meeting recently. It was so horrible. As you say OP, it was basically a men's toilet. Walk in, walk past a row of urinals, and there were two cubicles with normal toilets at the back. Lovely. Instead of a men's and a women's toilet, they now had two of these so nowhere away from men, and both spaces dominated by men's needs.

I found it absolutely gross, even though it was clean at the time, I just don't want to see urinals and even worse walk in when a man might be there, or have a man come in when I'm in the cubicle. They did that just because some people want to pretend the sexes don't exist or matter. Which there's zero evidence for.

I've worked in pubs and restaurants and the men's toilets have always been absolutely rank. Men's piss is a truly disgusting smell, I'm not surprised it can be used as a wildlife deterrent.

Just remembered a 'survivor' type show years ago where people were put down in groups in isolated places to see how they got on. One group, mixed sex, was put down on a shore location and had set up home in some caves. When the guy in charge came to see how they were getting on, the first thing he did was turn to the men and say 'You've all been pissing right outside the cave, haven't you'. Bleugh.

https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/awful-gag-gross-yuck-dame-edna-gif-15847453

I will be writing again, but the shadow ones have mostly kept their roles so they have the information.

The information has been passed to the Health and Safety Executive who said gaps had gone in toilet designs due to the option of privacy and dignity. I would like a health and safety option back. It did say single sex toilets can have gaps in the doors and partitions as an option. However I would argue this is unclear as this is never stipulated, the ambulant single sex profile drawing shows the door down to the floor and the mixed sex fully enclosed designs can be used as single sex designs anyway. There will often be no option for health and safety.

Eventually, the numbers of incidents will lead someone to realise this might not be a good design solution. But I want to prevent these things happening to anyone else in the first place.

‘another note, the 'b-b-but you have a gender neutral toilet in your hoooouuuuussseee!' is such a smooth-brained argument that I find it hard to believe that anyone ever trotted it out in all seriousness.’

…and it is irrelevant. We are talking about Public facilities , not domestic ones.

Yes us too. And so did my family once we moved to a two loo house in 1963

In this set up, they're on a corridor just off the main café seating area.

There's a school in my area that also has mixed sex toilets. In that setting, they are on a corridor leading from one area to another. Each cubicle has a sanitary bin and is lockable.
Separating the area from the corridor is a standalone bank of handbasins (between the corridor and cubicles) with hand driers at each end.
Staff are around whenever the toilets are in use, I'm told.

Yeah,

To be fair the smell isn't their fault. I think its a hormonal difference, combined with the way urinals work. But they do also tend to be a lot messier. The ONLY time women's toilets are likely to be grimmer is when its a much more heavily female and young children space so there is much heavier use on the women's toilets combined with small kids etc. Even then, I would say the men's still smells more strongly. Again, not men's fault. But its unpleasant and unnecessary to make them unisex.

Men's loos are generally vile, and the only ones that aren't are usually the ones with a regular and effective cleaning regime, like motorway services and railway stations.

I used one in an airport as I was desperate and couldn’t get to the women’s in time, but I also thought I’d test out for myself. I had a bag and couldn’t put it on the floor as it was wee wet, and the smell … It wasn’t a pleasant experience.

@Keeptoiletssafe have you written to the new Ministers with responsibilities for Women with his information?

Posters who don’t think men’s public toilets are any more smelly and disgusting than women’s toilets, obviously have never cleaned a public male toilet themselves. I used to have to at work and it was terrible. The women’s were fine, compared.
I feel sick for cleaners who now have to deal with even more outlets for male piss everywhere with GN toilets

Males can pee on the seat and pee on the floor without causing significant nconvenience to other males. Women have to sit on the seat (with pee) and pull down their trousers risking them coming into contact with the pee on the floor. In toilets which are used frequently, unless they are cleaned between use, there is a significantly higher chance of discomfort to females than to males.

Why not with our urethras?

If I was in the habit of going to the theatre (which I'm not because uncultured) I would take a bucket with me 😂

Vote with your feet

I hate them . I'm in the cubicle and there's a queue of men right outside of where I am. Also toilets generally are a stinking mess. Does not benefit me at all.