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Temporary ban on private clinics prescribing puberty blockers runs out on 3 September 2024

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IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 18:12

Temporary legislation to stop private clinics prescribing puberty blockers runs out on 3 September.

We’ve written to the Heath Secretary, Wes Streeting, to urge him to extend this ban.

This is a health emergency affecting mostly LGB young people.

LGB Alliance
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I cant find what they have written, but thought I would post this reminder.

Partly because in a short while House of Commons goes into Summer Recess, and then doesn't return until September.

If anyone has more information, or can clarify please do add!

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lonelywater · 08/11/2024 01:33

IwantToRetire · 08/11/2024 01:18

I suppose there is some process to be gone through. ie to come up with an "alternative" treatment.

But am glad they aren't giving way.

Just worry that we will turn round in 3 or 6 months time and found they haven't re-newed it.

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think the days of trying to sneak this stuff through under the radar are well and truly over-they are under the microscope and they know it.

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IwantToRetire · 08/11/2024 01:18

birdiesings · 07/11/2024 23:44

Why not make it permanent?

I suppose there is some process to be gone through. ie to come up with an "alternative" treatment.

But am glad they aren't giving way.

Just worry that we will turn round in 3 or 6 months time and found they haven't re-newed it.

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birdiesings · 07/11/2024 23:44

Why not make it permanent?

ChaChaChooey · 07/11/2024 21:06

Pleased to see the sensible position continues (at least for now).

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HoneyButterPopcorn · 15/07/2024 18:58

So now they are saying the kind speech will include ‘ban on conversion therapy’ bit?

ffs. Labour suck.

SmudgeHughes · 14/07/2024 19:28

Of course we’ve also seen the usual nonsense from Alastair Campbell and Rory Stuart this week on gender issues, as emerged in their interview the former PM of Denmark.

The lads can’t understand why women/feminists/JK Rowling are so angry about gender identity issues. As Hadley Freeman tweets, if only there was a way for them to understand, if only they could read the Cass report, for example, or speak to Helen Joyce, Maya Forstater, JK Rowling, Prof Stock.

NoWordForFluffy · 14/07/2024 15:59

Wes is coming across as very measured. I'm impressed. I do wonder what he's really thinking about the 'both sides are toxic' rhetoric which keeps being spouted?

BabaYagasHouse · 14/07/2024 12:18

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/07/2024 11:57

https://x.com/wesstreeting/status/1812435914473295927?s=46&t=aWQLrPtVicDNf6MQpq5WVg

Many thanks for the link.
Respect to Wes Streeting.

BabaYagasHouse · 14/07/2024 11:56

Imnobody4 · 14/07/2024 11:52

Wes Streeting has put up a thread explaining his position.

Cass Review found there is not enough evidence about the long-term impact of puberty blockers for gender incongruence to know whether they are safe or not, nor which children might benefit from them.

The evidence should have been established before they were ever prescribed. 2/9

If anyone's on twitter they might want to give him a positive response!

My respect for him is going up.

Do you have a link please?

Imnobody4 · 14/07/2024 11:52

Wes Streeting has put up a thread explaining his position.

Cass Review found there is not enough evidence about the long-term impact of puberty blockers for gender incongruence to know whether they are safe or not, nor which children might benefit from them.

The evidence should have been established before they were ever prescribed. 2/9

If anyone's on twitter they might want to give him a positive response!

My respect for him is going up.

Imnobody4 · 14/07/2024 11:42

Oh and here's 2 more.

https://twitter.com/IanSollom/status/1812235953337184671?t=RZZyXUKkh3spOxssCzQpdA&s=19

I’m deeply concerned at news that Wes Streeting is considering making the ban on puberty blockers permanent.

Sensitive healthcare decisions are profoundly personal and are best taken on an individual basis with appropriate professional support - not by the health secretary.

https://twitter.com/stellacreasy/status/1812188020587585905?t=RZZyXUKkh3spOxssCzQpdA&s=19

Cass review recommended caution, not exclusion, for any treatment and drew attention to shortcomings of previous GIDs service.
To those asking will always be MP who listens to demand for better research & evidence base for help for those with gender dysphoria, not abandons them.

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https://twitter.com/IanSollom/status/1812235953337184671?s=19&t=RZZyXUKkh3spOxssCzQpdA

Imnobody4 · 14/07/2024 11:28

It will be very interesting to see how KS handles this -culture wars haven't ended yet. Wonder if /when he'll support Wes Streeting.

https://twitter.com/labourlewis/status/1812399780355539424?t=A46RzR-HivLycwEgbtmldw&s=19

I’ve met young people who’ve been prescribed puberty blockers. Some told me they’d helped lift them from depression & probably saved their life.
A blanket ban is wrong & not what Cass recommended. Careful, clinical provision is the way forward, not this politicisation.

https://twitter.com/NadiaWhittomeMP/status/1812213557397750218?t=TmNQWBeR4ODBjnDNdazOSg&s=19

Only a small number of young people are prescribed puberty blockers. Those who are often describe them as life-saving.

I know the distress the puberty blockers ban is causing them.

No matter what happens in court, I will continue fighting for the government to scrap it.

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https://twitter.com/labourlewis/status/1812399780355539424?s=19&t=A46RzR-HivLycwEgbtmldw

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IwantToRetire · 13/07/2024 20:34

Imnobody4 · 13/07/2024 19:57

Sarah Sultana MP has just posted this. I despair.

https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1812159140258611284?t=X1-OyyQk0GKD4OEkuF44tA&s=19
Labour's manifesto promised to "remove indignities for trans people who deserve recognition & acceptance".

That entails ending the Tories' ban on puberty blockers.

Young people – cis & trans – must have access to healthcare they need. I'll always stand with the trans community.

This is very concerning. Even if she isn't a Minister it shows that some (the majority?) of Labour MPs are fully on board with the trans agenda.

Bad enough that we had to rely on Kemi Badenock to take a stand amonst the Tories, but who have we got amongst the Labour cabinet?

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Imnobody4 · 13/07/2024 20:31

Or even Zarah Sultana !

Imnobody4 · 13/07/2024 19:57

Sarah Sultana MP has just posted this. I despair.

https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1812159140258611284?t=X1-OyyQk0GKD4OEkuF44tA&s=19
Labour's manifesto promised to "remove indignities for trans people who deserve recognition & acceptance".

That entails ending the Tories' ban on puberty blockers.

Young people – cis & trans – must have access to healthcare they need. I'll always stand with the trans community.

x.com

https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1812159140258611284?s=19&t=X1-OyyQk0GKD4OEkuF44tA

DerekFaker · 13/07/2024 19:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2024 19:32

Quite a bit of discussion of the judicial review application and fallout on this thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5118080-telegraph-labour-moves-to-ban-puberty-blockers-permanently

Thanks!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2024 19:32

Quite a bit of discussion of the judicial review application and fallout on this thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5118080-telegraph-labour-moves-to-ban-puberty-blockers-permanently

DerekFaker · 13/07/2024 17:58

Has this been posted anywhere?

https://x.com/TransActualCIC/status/1811690354397028826

We're in the Royal Court of Justice today challenging the ban on private prescriptions of puberty blockers. We have permission to live tweet, and will capture what we can. Follow this thread for live updates throughout the day.

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https://x.com/TransActualCIC/status/1811690354397028826

PurpleSparkledPixie · 13/07/2024 16:47

Imnobody4 · 12/07/2024 15:36

Maya has tweeted

The people who have been accusing Hillary Cass, JK Rowling, Kishwer Falkner and all of the rest of us of being hate groups with "blood on our hands" are now turning on Wes Streeting.

docs.google.com/document/d/e/2…
https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1811768240206401739?t=poHq8Ep6aoxkw_3xQmtHmw&s=19

They're complete nutters.

Good grief, some of that hatred is frightening.

Omlettes · 13/07/2024 02:06

IwantToRetire · 13/07/2024 01:50

Just because some might enjoyo reading this, here is the Good Law Project's very own summary of the hearing.

https://goodlawproject.org/update/labour-defends-tory-trans-healthcare-ban-that-will-have-a-grave-impact-on-young-lives/

What I take away from this is that the GLP is outraged that the wrote to Wes Streeting pointing out everything that was wrong about how the ban had been brought him - and he ignored them!

I think this is why they are doing all this leaking about Labour will do this that and the other, when all that has been said is the temporary ban could be extended whilst further investigations are done.

Really in years to come whatever is the equivilent of tv dramas, there will be endless source material focusing on the everyday hysterics of people who existence seems to depend on them being able to have at least one hissy fit a day.

So now that the Tories have gone, they are without a cardboard cutout tyrant so they are hastily remodeling the old version to be more Wes Streeting!

Do you know what Peter Kyles role and stance in all this is?
He is very pro banning "conversion therapy"

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IwantToRetire · 13/07/2024 01:50

Just because some might enjoyo reading this, here is the Good Law Project's very own summary of the hearing.

https://goodlawproject.org/update/labour-defends-tory-trans-healthcare-ban-that-will-have-a-grave-impact-on-young-lives/

What I take away from this is that the GLP is outraged that the wrote to Wes Streeting pointing out everything that was wrong about how the ban had been brought him - and he ignored them!

I think this is why they are doing all this leaking about Labour will do this that and the other, when all that has been said is the temporary ban could be extended whilst further investigations are done.

Really in years to come whatever is the equivilent of tv dramas, there will be endless source material focusing on the everyday hysterics of people who existence seems to depend on them being able to have at least one hissy fit a day.

So now that the Tories have gone, they are without a cardboard cutout tyrant so they are hastily remodeling the old version to be more Wes Streeting!

Labour defends Tory trans healthcare ban that will have a “grave impact” on young lives - Good Law Project

The new health secretary has defended a Tory ban on puberty blockers for young trans people being heard in the High Court. He added he’d like to make it permanent, despite repeated warnings of the risk to young people’s lives

https://goodlawproject.org/update/labour-defends-tory-trans-healthcare-ban-that-will-have-a-grave-impact-on-young-lives

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IwantToRetire · 13/07/2024 01:20

dunBle · 12/07/2024 21:37

To be honest, I would't bother, as it was very dry. Basically lots of refering back to previous cases across Europe that they deemed relevant for one reason or another, or pointing to bits in the skeleton argument which we don't have access to. Probably best to wait until the judgment comes out.

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Thanks - and looks like some papers are covering it, so could always skim them.

Off topic - I wonder how much money the legal profession has made out of the transing of society. Not underestimating the amount of money that has come via donations, that would in a more sane world gone into something pro-active and useful, rather than needing to stop certain levels of madness.

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