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Which supermarkets can GC women shop in? Not Tesco it seems.

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invisibleoldwoman · 06/07/2024 14:59

I try my best to boycott/avoid the worst offenders eg M&S, Costa.

I think I have been deluding myself that Tesco has not gone down the self-id path or only in a limited virtue signally manner. Very little 'rainbow' visibility locally or on the main or local websites. Now I discover that their official policy is that their staff and customer toilets are unisex. Everyone can choose whatever toilet they want. But, in my store on a recent visit, this isn't made obvious, eg signage, and they certainly haven't redesigned the toilets to allow proper privacy, eg fully enclosed cubicles with integral wash basins.

Here are the details - see Victoria Smith @glosswitch on X

All the major supermarkets are represented in my general area, albeit at a distance. Sadly Tesco is the nearest. Can anyone recommend the best one to support in terms of legal compliance with the Equalities legislation and some semblance of concern for women and children's safety and privacy?

There was a thread recently discussing who we are boycotting generally but I can't find it. If anyone has a link that would be helpful.

I can't easily find how to email the CEO of Tesco, the head office, or my local store. So I think I will have to work up to visiting locally and try to speak to the local manager.

Which supermarkets can GC women shop in?  Not Tesco it seems.
Which supermarkets can GC women shop in?  Not Tesco it seems.
Which supermarkets can GC women shop in?  Not Tesco it seems.
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ApocalipstickNow · 14/07/2024 10:51

IDontHateRainbows · 11/07/2024 20:19

That's no different to the toilet on a train surely

And I haven't heard women having a problem with those

Ah yes, the delightful train toilets we all love so much.

Can’t wait for everywhere to have similar 🙄

TrainedByCats · 14/07/2024 09:48

Tesco was always my preference for the big stock up but switched that to Asda when they used Jane Fae. I use Lidl and Aldi a lot more. Unfortunately my closest supermarket by far is Waitrose so I do still use it but a lot less than I used to.

It’s not the answer for everyone but I try and use specialist online suppliers as much as possible for things like meat, fish, pet food and get milk delivered.

duc748 · 13/07/2024 00:03

Toilets on trains can be grim, but they are what have to be, and everyone accepts that. That is not the case in pubs and other public places.

Gillbil · 12/07/2024 23:56

IDontHateRainbows · 11/07/2024 20:19

That's no different to the toilet on a train surely

And I haven't heard women having a problem with those

I think it's more to do with the law...unisex toilets are for anyone but it ensures full privacy ie floor to ceiling walls and door. Those are the toilets you get on trains..

While single sex spaces is the classic cubicles in a row that is open at the base and top. Where you can pass someone looroll under the stalls or if you stand on top of the toilet you could look in on the next toilet.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 11/07/2024 22:04

IDontHateRainbows · 11/07/2024 20:19

That's no different to the toilet on a train surely

And I haven't heard women having a problem with those

Most of the women I know only use them if they are absolutely desperate. Because they so often have piss on the seats/floor.

IDontHateRainbows · 11/07/2024 20:19

tiggergoesbounce · 06/07/2024 22:51

Our tesco has a male, a female and a disabled one.

I do frequent some places that are unisex where its just individual cubicles for whomever to use.

That's no different to the toilet on a train surely

And I haven't heard women having a problem with those

LassoOfTruth · 11/07/2024 19:22

@invisibleoldwoman thanks! I’ll try to get the scoop on Morrisons.
Mr Menno’s (💕) latest YouTube video was partially about Tennant and it draws attention to the Tesco virtue-signalling and their staff bathroom policy.

invisibleoldwoman · 11/07/2024 16:37

@LassoOfTruth I did bit of research and so far Morrisons comes out best in terms of current policies. No idea what the toilets are like. Haven’t visited yet. Iceland is good, especially for deliveries. Might be worth investigating.

morrisons

I didn’t know about the link with the David Tennant awards thing. Seems like Tesco has drunk the Kool Aid just as everyone else is quietly exiting stage left.

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HoneyButterPopcorn · 11/07/2024 12:40

Tesco’s is rubbish anyone - horsegate anyone?

LassoOfTruth · 11/07/2024 10:20

Seems that Tesco got a nice pat on the back at the alphabet soup awards (same ones where David Tennant wished Kemi Badenoch would cease to exist). The whole thing makes me 🤮
Does anyone know about Morrisons? I live in the sticks and they’re my only other option for food delivery.

Peskysquirrel · 09/07/2024 15:12

StormingNorman · 08/07/2024 23:25

I’m just not that bothered about it to be honest. You know disabled loos aren’t segregated?

Are you also going to tell me that my bathroom at home isn't segregated?

And that male cleaners clean women's toilets?

Go on, for a hat trick.

WickedSerious · 09/07/2024 15:07

StormingNorman · 08/07/2024 23:25

I’m just not that bothered about it to be honest. You know disabled loos aren’t segregated?

Oh my.

Who knew?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 09/07/2024 09:16

Disabled loos are also fully self contained and single occupancy. Try again, @StormingNorman.

StormingNorman · 08/07/2024 23:25

HereForTheFreeLunch · 08/07/2024 21:48

The same could have been said to TW and leave women's toilets alone?

But no - women be kind and stay chained to the toilet leash.
And men can pee wherever they like! 🙄

No thought about being kind to women too and thinking of any third option. It's all just stfu women.

I’m just not that bothered about it to be honest. You know disabled loos aren’t segregated?

invisibleoldwoman · 08/07/2024 21:53

I've done some research into the main supermarkets (that I am likely to use) and put the results on the 'Go Woke, Go Broke' thread. I will probably switch my main shop to Iceland, with Morrisons as a close second and Aldi/Asda as alternatives where necessary.

It seems that whatever they did or did not do in the past most of them are not now featuring or even mentioning LGBT+, Stonewall or related organisations on their customer facing sites (unless doing a bit of token flag waving here and there occasionally) and it is just one of a number of issues in the Diversity and Inclusion sections of the careers/jobs pages. Some of them do get the current law and protected characteristics correct. Sainsbury, Tesco and the Co-op are the most suspect in terms of downgrading women's rights.

I'm going to contact all of them to see what exactly their policies are in respect of women's rights and issues seeing as they all profess to be in favour of supporting them.

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HereForTheFreeLunch · 08/07/2024 21:48

StormingNorman · 07/07/2024 23:07

Shop where you want and pre at home.

The same could have been said to TW and leave women's toilets alone?

But no - women be kind and stay chained to the toilet leash.
And men can pee wherever they like! 🙄

No thought about being kind to women too and thinking of any third option. It's all just stfu women.

StormingNorman · 08/07/2024 19:51

Runnerinthenight · 08/07/2024 19:45

Bully for you that you can.

I have a chronic bowel condition that means I need to use the toilet urgently and frequently. I have no desire to shit myself in Sainsburys.

It’s one helluva way to protest.

Runnerinthenight · 08/07/2024 19:45

StormingNorman · 07/07/2024 23:07

Shop where you want and pre at home.

Bully for you that you can.

I have a chronic bowel condition that means I need to use the toilet urgently and frequently. I have no desire to shit myself in Sainsburys.

GoldenGate · 08/07/2024 19:31

Can't speak for the company as a whole but it only shows it hasn't infiltrated all stores. Time will tell. One manager worked in another Tesco where the issue was rife like pronoun madness (high student population, home of Scottish Greens etc.)

invisibleoldwoman · 08/07/2024 19:05

GoldenGate · 08/07/2024 16:30

I work in Tesco. This absolutely doesn't exist in our store, either colleague areas or on the shop floor. Everything is men, women or disabled (which in reality are men due to the state they become). This would go down like a wet spud in our place, former shipyard town with strong family and religious values. Everyone knows what a man and woman is and the whole gender issue is only raised in jest. Only recall one trans identified colleague and that was a xmas temp years ago, most just avoided him for fear of saying the wrong thing.

That's really helpful @GoldenGate thank you. Are the documents I showed in the OP false? If they are I will follow it up with the person who posted them on X. I have to say it would be nice to continue shopping at Tesco. I live in a traditional sort of place as well so assumed that my Tesco wasn't changing because they know it won't go down well. They are no 15 on the Stonewall top 100 employers list so they must be doing something for that even if they are selective about how they apply it?

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invisibleoldwoman · 08/07/2024 17:13

@chanpaign Many thanks. I'll make sure I save it this time.

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chanpaign · 08/07/2024 17:10

invisibleoldwoman · 07/07/2024 06:11

Thanks everyone. I will talk to the local management and find a head office address to write to. Tesco is very convenient for me but I can source things elsewhere. Does anyone have a link to the recent thread about who we are boycotting?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4822932-go-woke-go-broke-new-list-of-boycotted-brands?page=8

Page 8 | Go Woke & Go Broke! New list of boycotted brands.. | Mumsnet

So it's June & so far the big companies that are being heavily boycotted are as follows.. Innocent Drinks & smoothies Oxfam Target Nike Bud...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4822932-go-woke-go-broke-new-list-of-boycotted-brands?page=8

GoldenGate · 08/07/2024 16:30

I work in Tesco. This absolutely doesn't exist in our store, either colleague areas or on the shop floor. Everything is men, women or disabled (which in reality are men due to the state they become). This would go down like a wet spud in our place, former shipyard town with strong family and religious values. Everyone knows what a man and woman is and the whole gender issue is only raised in jest. Only recall one trans identified colleague and that was a xmas temp years ago, most just avoided him for fear of saying the wrong thing.

ScrollingLeaves · 08/07/2024 06:47

334bu · 07/07/2024 23:53

https://www.advocate.com/news/keir-starmer-lgbtq-record#:~:text=In%20a%20Mondayinterview%20with,be%20protected%2C%E2%80%9D%20he%20said.

Sir Keir Starmer would seem to disagree with the idea that men who identify as women should be allowed access to female single sex facilities. So it would seem that things may change.

It depends whether he was lying during his last ditch pitch or not.