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Anneliese Dodds: what has happened to her?

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Calling · 06/07/2024 11:48

Annelise Dodds was re-elected as MP in a safe seat and I had thought that she would be Minister for Women or similar. I can't find any reference to her as chair of the Labour Party or as Minister and I checked the Labour Party website etc.
I spotted her in a red dress* at the place outside where MPs were waiting to be called to see Starmer, having been summoned, but it was confusing because she was not allowed to go forward for a while when others were (or simply was early and had to wait). She didn't seem very happy about that).

*That's how I noticed her.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 07/07/2024 09:58

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2024 09:10

Does that mean getting rid of the minister of equalities and women completely or is it that Dodds is now toxic or is it that they can't have a department for equalities and women until they have a cabinet meeting to decide the legal definition of a woman?

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I suspect Blair refers to 'wokeism' more generally...all the identity politics stuff, and that obviously does include gender identity politics. He obviously senses, quite rightly, that the general public have no time for any of it...and the gains Labour has made could be so easily lost if they become a caricature of identitarian 'progressive' politics - U.S style.

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2024 09:11

There is a sense of trying to quietly bury things here though isn't there?

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2024 09:10

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/07/2024 08:36

Tony Blair is currently advising him not to get bogged down in "wokeism". Hopefully he'll pay some attention to that advice

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Does that mean getting rid of the minister of equalities and women completely or is it that Dodds is now toxic or is it that they can't have a department for equalities and women until they have a cabinet meeting to decide the legal definition of a woman?

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/07/2024 08:45

zibzibara · 06/07/2024 20:12

It's like how academic departments changed Women's Studies to Gender Studies. Just more erasure.

Problem is that now 'Sisters are Doing it for Themselves' ( or to themselves, anyway).

In consenting to the easure of 'woman' they see liberation from everything associated with being a woman ( pregnancy, childbirth, childcare and their consequences, mainly). Meanwhile lots of other young women are also trying to escape from the sexualisation of women by 'becoming men'.

Men, on the other hand, are now liberated, to become the ultimate fantasy of whatever 'woman' means to them or represents, but without the downsides that actual women have no choice about.

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/07/2024 08:36

DrBlackbird · 06/07/2024 20:10

whether they would remove the word 'Woman' and just have it as the 'Equalities'

If Labour follow my union’s suggestion they may well change the Equalities brief (Committee) to become the ‘Liberation’ Minister. Which though repeatedly proposed at my union meetings has not yet been accepted but give it time.

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Tony Blair is currently advising him not to get bogged down in "wokeism". Hopefully he'll pay some attention to that advice

KasperBells · 07/07/2024 07:34

… I do also wonder if they are going for a change to the title of the role, hoping to slip that one under the radar and no one notices that ‘woman’ has been erased from the post title (because presumably it’s a bit of a ‘controversial’ word these days).

KasperBells · 07/07/2024 07:31

It will be interesting to see who he does decide to put in that role- will show what he really feels with regards to women/ women only spaces.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 07/07/2024 00:02

DrBlackbird · 06/07/2024 20:10

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She needs to be made the Minister for Centaurs.

Because that would make a lot more sense than someone who thinks women have penises being in charge of equality for women.

I mean I presume she believes in Centaurs too given the magical anti-reality thinking.

And yes, very Umbridge adjacent.

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Calling · 06/07/2024 23:45

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/07/2024 22:14

This is interesting.

x.com/anneliesedodds/status/1809691988280615263?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Thanks. She had been Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer but that was taken away from her and now she is no longer party Chair.

Have Starmer and Dodds fallen out or something of that nature? Could 'gender' be the reason? Mind you, she is in the cabinet.

A member of her staff was asked "what is a woman? " and her answer was "it is how you feel".

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GCAcademic · 06/07/2024 22:53

Floisme · 06/07/2024 22:52

Is this Rachel Reeves' sister?

Yes.

Floisme · 06/07/2024 22:52

Is this Rachel Reeves' sister?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 06/07/2024 22:14

This is interesting.

x.com/anneliesedodds/status/1809691988280615263?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

zibzibara · 06/07/2024 20:29

Retiredfromthere · 06/07/2024 20:14

And your evidence for disbelieving the claim is ...?

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The screenshot they cropped is the same type of rejection message you get back from GMail if the email you sent is too large or has keywords that hit a spam filter or loads of other possible reasons.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 06/07/2024 20:24

I don't understand the attacks on journalism SEEN. They do a good job of explaining the issues to the public, and what goes on behind the scenes before stories get to us.

Over here - at the end - there's similar confusion on the role allocated to Dodds. It's not journalism SEEN being rubbish.

Do we know who the new Minister for Women will be, or if we will even have one? Maybe Minister for How I Identify. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5112867-do-we-know-who-the-new-minister-for-women-will-be-or-if-we-will-even-have-one-maybe-minister-for-how-i-identify

Retiredfromthere · 06/07/2024 20:14

zibzibara · 06/07/2024 15:14

They also claimed that Fergus Walsh of the BBC had blocked another journalist from emailing him, again with no evidence offered that he'd actually done that. The only screenshot they provided was cropped so you couldn't see the reason why the BBC mail system had rejected the email.

And your evidence for disbelieving the claim is ...?

zibzibara · 06/07/2024 20:12

It's like how academic departments changed Women's Studies to Gender Studies. Just more erasure.

DrBlackbird · 06/07/2024 20:10

WickedSerious · 06/07/2024 17:23

I was hoping she'd been dragged away by centaurs.

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DrBlackbird · 06/07/2024 20:10

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 12:01

I suspect that Starmer is uncertain how to proceed with this appointment.......He knows what an emotive issue this remains, and needs to get it 'right'...however he perceives that. I've been wondering whether they would remove the word 'Woman' and just have it as the 'Equalities' - but this would signal a further erosion of women's concerns and protections - and so I think it may well be a bit of a hot potato.

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whether they would remove the word 'Woman' and just have it as the 'Equalities'

If Labour follow my union’s suggestion they may well change the Equalities brief (Committee) to become the ‘Liberation’ Minister. Which though repeatedly proposed at my union meetings has not yet been accepted but give it time.

Imnobody4 · 06/07/2024 19:32

This is bizarre. According to this she was at the first cabinet meeting.

During the cabinet meeting, Ms Dodds sat in front of a place card reading minister of state for development, however, this post has not yet been officially announced.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24435323.anneliese-dodds-attends-keir-starmers-first-cabinet-meeting/

Do you think they're trying for a new Women's and Equalities Minister and no one wants it?

Anneliese Dodds attends Starmer's first cabinet meeting in Downing Street

Oxford East MP Anneliese Dodds attended Sir Keir Starmer‘s first cabinet meeting.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24435323.anneliese-dodds-attends-keir-starmers-first-cabinet-meeting

cavalier · 06/07/2024 18:33

Rosie duffield deserves on honour for facing down that lot in Parliament.

Analiese Dodds .. not impressed whenever I’ve heard her talk
I’m assuming she I identifying as a woman?
These cretins must live on a different planet.
im telling myself 4 years minimum 🙏

PriOn1 · 06/07/2024 17:45

AlecTrevelyan006 · 06/07/2024 13:46

Starmer should give the job to Rosie Duffield

Can you imagine the testeria if that happened?

Love it!

WickedSerious · 06/07/2024 17:23

I was hoping she'd been dragged away by centaurs.

zibzibara · 06/07/2024 15:14

They also claimed that Fergus Walsh of the BBC had blocked another journalist from emailing him, again with no evidence offered that he'd actually done that. The only screenshot they provided was cropped so you couldn't see the reason why the BBC mail system had rejected the email.

zibzibara · 06/07/2024 15:11

OldCrone · 06/07/2024 12:18

What's the error? The first tweet posted by @WarriorN links to a bbc video of the first cabinet meeting where she's clearly seen, and the second one also shows her as part of the cabinet.

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The error was them stating she had been given the Women and Equalities brief, without it having been announced by the government.

bellinisurge · 06/07/2024 13:49

Dodds is development sec according to BBC