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Party of Women – number of votes for 16 women brave enough to take a public stand

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IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:11

290 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness
332 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle
196 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central
452 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North
318 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green
244 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth
354 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury
116 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater
283 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
455 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South
337 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East
482 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley
295 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire
274 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
286 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth
363 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire

Original thread here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024

Party of Women has 16 candidates standing for election on 4 July 2024 | Mumsnet

1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness 2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle 3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central 4 ... Catherine Brigg...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024

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Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 11:56

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You would, but group/tribal affinity seems to have taken precedence over concern about latent homophobia. It shows just how much having a strong tribal identity and feeling of family belonging matter to many people, over and above other concerns or needs.

OldCrone · 06/07/2024 11:53

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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 11:49

BaronessBomburst · 05/07/2024 19:57

It's a small number but more effective than spoiling your ballot.

Exactly. A mature response at least. I like the fact that these women stood, knowing that they wouldn't win.

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 11:48

Also think a lot of gay men have revealed just how little respect they actually have for women.

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 11:46

OldCrone · 06/07/2024 11:33

Two of them in constituencies with some of the highest proportion of lesbian and gay voters - which rather suggests that claims that GC viewpoints are widely held by ‘same sex attracted people’ are wide of the mark.

It always astonishes me that so many LGB people are on-board with an ideology which aims to sterilise children who would grow up to be gay or lesbian.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-feels-like-conversion-therapy-for-gay-children-say-clinicians-pvsckdvq2

https://archive.is/OzlEP

Perhaps you could shed some light on this. Why do so many LGB people support this homophobic ideology?

I suggest that since the TQ+ has been tagged on to the LGB a lot of gay men and young lesbians ( many of who have re-branded themselves as either 'queer' or gay) have been drilled in the notion of 'inclusiveness' and of having common interest. Those who are very much identified with the 'community' are more likley to be advocates for Trans identities. Those who do not identify strongly with the LGB community or as 'progressives' are less likley to fall for it.

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 11:42

PlanetJanette · 06/07/2024 09:28

The Greens won four seats, not two.

Two of them in constituencies with some of the highest proportion of lesbian and gay voters - which rather suggests that claims that GC viewpoints are widely held by ‘same sex attracted people’ are wide of the mark.

Meanwhile, it was a bad election for explicitly GC politicians. Cherry, Gates, Hanvey, Doyle Price all gone. Even Duffield saw her votes fall by 10,000 and probably held on because of the general pro Labour headwinds in this election.

Jackie Doyle Price was standing down anyway...which is a shame in my view...as she was solid and had a firm grasp of the issue.

Labour % share of the vote was down in most places. Overall the vote share only increased by 2% in spite of winning a lot more seats. 35% of the electorate voted Labour - on a 60 % turnout. In Labour strongholds the Labour vote was down considerably - as people either voted for the Greens, for Reform, for independents or else spoiled their ballots.

Kemi Badenoch and Victoria Atkins remain for the Conservatives, and are the two with the most competence on this issue..

OldCrone · 06/07/2024 11:33

Two of them in constituencies with some of the highest proportion of lesbian and gay voters - which rather suggests that claims that GC viewpoints are widely held by ‘same sex attracted people’ are wide of the mark.

It always astonishes me that so many LGB people are on-board with an ideology which aims to sterilise children who would grow up to be gay or lesbian.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-feels-like-conversion-therapy-for-gay-children-say-clinicians-pvsckdvq2

https://archive.is/OzlEP

Perhaps you could shed some light on this. Why do so many LGB people support this homophobic ideology?

AlisonDonut · 06/07/2024 10:37

The sickness of the gloating over the potential to carry on sterilising and mutilating kids will never not shock me.

If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I'd never believe it.

PlanetJanette · 06/07/2024 09:28

rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 08:56

OK, we'll I have done some rough maths.

Candidates only stood in 16 constituencies and got 5077 votes between them.

If candidates had stood in all 650 constituencies that extrapolates out to 206000 votes.

Personally, I thought this campaign was a huge mistake simply because it was always going to look as though it was an unpopular opinion if so few people voted for it. This will now be the new talking point whenever this comes up - 'noone agrees with you, Noone voted for you' and unless you then have the space to explain that it was never about winning but bringing the issue to debate, it's always going to look as though KJK completely failed.

I don't think she did, tho. Puberty blockers banned in Scotland. The SNP annihilated. The greens only got 2 MPs.

I think keir and Wes will listen, because any harm done will be on their watch now. And they're not stupid.

So let's be optimistic. And we'll done KJK and those other brave candidates xxx

The Greens won four seats, not two.

Two of them in constituencies with some of the highest proportion of lesbian and gay voters - which rather suggests that claims that GC viewpoints are widely held by ‘same sex attracted people’ are wide of the mark.

Meanwhile, it was a bad election for explicitly GC politicians. Cherry, Gates, Hanvey, Doyle Price all gone. Even Duffield saw her votes fall by 10,000 and probably held on because of the general pro Labour headwinds in this election.

Retiredfromthere · 06/07/2024 09:14

I would have voted for PoW had they stood here.

Re. @iseegulls
KJK stood in one of the wokest constituencies and 'So KJK got the second lowest votes out of all her candidates?' That is not a surprise and that video clip shared by @AReasonablePerson is golden.

I got the impression that KJK did not stop her other LWS activities to focus on getting voted up in 'her' constituency. I am not a 100% fan but she does much that is very admirable and for the wider good. Thank you to all PoW candidates. This was a very admirable result given you are such a new and unsupported party.

AlisonDonut · 06/07/2024 09:11

What they did show was just how broken the system is.

How candidates get kept off hustings if they don't want kids sterilised and mutilated.

How candidates are stopped from even asking questions at a hustings they have been barred from speaking at.

How the post office, royal mail and the police are completely unable to do their jobs without prejudice

And how absurd people who pretend they cannot tell what the opposite sex is are

PeachyKeane · 06/07/2024 09:05

If there'd been a candidate in my constituency, she'd have received 4 votes from our household. I think they were incredible women. In awe at their bravery.

rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 09:04

turnipsarelush · 06/07/2024 09:01

Thats not very many is it - do they get their money back if it's over 500?

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I think they are OK with the idea of not getting their money back.

It's much like those employment tribunals that cost millions of pounds between them - Forstater, Bailey et al, they would never recoup the money it cost, even with the record payouts they got. But it wasn't about that, and they achieved so much more.

Money well spent, all of it.

turnipsarelush · 06/07/2024 09:01

Thats not very many is it - do they get their money back if it's over 500?

rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 08:56

OK, we'll I have done some rough maths.

Candidates only stood in 16 constituencies and got 5077 votes between them.

If candidates had stood in all 650 constituencies that extrapolates out to 206000 votes.

Personally, I thought this campaign was a huge mistake simply because it was always going to look as though it was an unpopular opinion if so few people voted for it. This will now be the new talking point whenever this comes up - 'noone agrees with you, Noone voted for you' and unless you then have the space to explain that it was never about winning but bringing the issue to debate, it's always going to look as though KJK completely failed.

I don't think she did, tho. Puberty blockers banned in Scotland. The SNP annihilated. The greens only got 2 MPs.

I think keir and Wes will listen, because any harm done will be on their watch now. And they're not stupid.

So let's be optimistic. And we'll done KJK and those other brave candidates xxx

EdithStourton · 06/07/2024 08:54

iseegulls · 05/07/2024 19:28

So KJK got the second lowest votes out of all her candidates?

I know this place is overrun with the KJK fan club these days, but honestly, that's hilarious IMO.

Given her narc tendancies she'll not be happy with that at all.

Sorry not sorry.

Out of interest, what have you accomplished for women and girls?

borntobequiet · 06/07/2024 07:23

RadicalisedPastThePointOfSalvation · 05/07/2024 20:18

Well done those women. I don’t understand this jeering at women who’ve got up and given time and got out there for other women. The Green candidate in my constituency only got around 300 votes. Am I supposed to laugh at them and ask why they bothered and say what a stupid thing they did?

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This.

AReasonablePerson · 05/07/2024 20:30

iseegulls · 05/07/2024 19:28

So KJK got the second lowest votes out of all her candidates?

I know this place is overrun with the KJK fan club these days, but honestly, that's hilarious IMO.

Given her narc tendancies she'll not be happy with that at all.

Sorry not sorry.

She got this in the public domain. I'd say this is fairly priceless to be honest. She should rightly be pleased with it Feel free to share ;)

Who is it that commits violence against women and girls? Simple question asked. #POW #PartyOfWomen

This is the original #AdultHumanFemale channel and home of Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker.Streamed live on 01/07/2024Watch the full hustings here: https://...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZfH6ZA38M

RadicalisedPastThePointOfSalvation · 05/07/2024 20:18

Well done those women. I don’t understand this jeering at women who’ve got up and given time and got out there for other women. The Green candidate in my constituency only got around 300 votes. Am I supposed to laugh at them and ask why they bothered and say what a stupid thing they did?

LastTrainEast · 05/07/2024 20:14

I just want to thank them all for their hard work.

No one expected the Party Of Women to form a government, but what they did was important. Anyone who doubts it should look up Keir Hardie and the creation of the Labour Party (the real Labour Party not the woke misogynist club we have now)

RubyTrees · 05/07/2024 20:09

(I think it's unlikely that many men voted for the Party of Women.)

I can confirm that there was one from my household. 😉

BaronessBomburst · 05/07/2024 20:07

@Shortshriftandlethal I did too. I would have preferred to have a protest vote but there wasn't the option, so I spoiled my ballot.

Shortshriftandlethal · 05/07/2024 20:04

BaronessBomburst · 05/07/2024 19:57

It's a small number but more effective than spoiling your ballot.

I'm perfectly content to have spoiled my ballot. It still feels right. Are you content with your vote and what it signalled?

GruntledGoblin · 05/07/2024 20:04

iseegulls · 05/07/2024 19:28

So KJK got the second lowest votes out of all her candidates?

I know this place is overrun with the KJK fan club these days, but honestly, that's hilarious IMO.

Given her narc tendancies she'll not be happy with that at all.

Sorry not sorry.

What a hostile and unpleasant angle.

Props to her for taking on Woke Central and getting any votes at all She's done a tremendous job setting this up, campaigning, standing, attending hustings, organising and supporting candidates etc. Huge respect to her. I see that as a successful result.

ChishiyaBat · 05/07/2024 20:03

I wish we'd had a candidate here in SE Wales I would have votef for them!
If I was a candidate i'd be happy that I stood for what I believed in and any votes would have been a bonus.