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Party of Women – number of votes for 16 women brave enough to take a public stand

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IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:11

290 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness
332 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle
196 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central
452 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North
318 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green
244 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth
354 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury
116 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater
283 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
455 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South
337 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East
482 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley
295 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire
274 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
286 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth
363 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire

Original thread here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024

Party of Women has 16 candidates standing for election on 4 July 2024 | Mumsnet

1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness 2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle 3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central 4 ... Catherine Brigg...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 20:09

IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 19:47

I innocently started this thread to provide some facts. This involved trawling through constituency results, etc., but thought other on FWR would be interested to know the outcome.

Maybe we could have talked about whether this was the start of something and what or how we could help come the next election. (PoW was only registered early this year.)

How did other parties start. How do you keep going.

There are many, many groups who election after election because they are committed to their beliefs, keep going.

So no suprise that the usual suspects bogged yet another thread down in repititious negativity.

Learn the names, so you dont respond to click bait and help other threads get derailed and stopped from providing an opportunity to share pro active ideas.

Forget the sneering, because in the records at the House of Commons and Electorial Commission it will be registered that there was a Party of Women who took part in the 2024 election.

And lets face it that is going to be far more of a lasting impacted than the unoriginal, tedious, sneering on FWR.

But of course on one level, as has been said before, this desparate attempt to try and drown us in negativity only illustrates how sucessful they think KJK is because they are so panicked they feel compelled to attack.

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Indeed. And the fact that this board continues to attract posters who sneer at, berate and criticise women for women's activism is testament to just how effective we've all been.
Women have forced poor old Starmer to retreat from his nonsensical "women have penises" stance. It became a major talking point in recent weeks and the press have been energised into challenging politicians who spout trans activist drivel. They'll be on the case as the next court cases / employment tribunals come in.

#nodebate is truly dead - no matter how desperately some transactivists try to silence women on here and elsewhere.

MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 20:05

IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 19:47

I innocently started this thread to provide some facts. This involved trawling through constituency results, etc., but thought other on FWR would be interested to know the outcome.

Maybe we could have talked about whether this was the start of something and what or how we could help come the next election. (PoW was only registered early this year.)

How did other parties start. How do you keep going.

There are many, many groups who election after election because they are committed to their beliefs, keep going.

So no suprise that the usual suspects bogged yet another thread down in repititious negativity.

Learn the names, so you dont respond to click bait and help other threads get derailed and stopped from providing an opportunity to share pro active ideas.

Forget the sneering, because in the records at the House of Commons and Electorial Commission it will be registered that there was a Party of Women who took part in the 2024 election.

And lets face it that is going to be far more of a lasting impacted than the unoriginal, tedious, sneering on FWR.

But of course on one level, as has been said before, this desparate attempt to try and drown us in negativity only illustrates how sucessful they think KJK is because they are so panicked they feel compelled to attack.

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I don't think she's successful, I think she's largely an irrelevance, with a side of bigotry. I'm also a woman and a feminist and so entitled to engage in this forum.

EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 20:01

IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 19:47

I innocently started this thread to provide some facts. This involved trawling through constituency results, etc., but thought other on FWR would be interested to know the outcome.

Maybe we could have talked about whether this was the start of something and what or how we could help come the next election. (PoW was only registered early this year.)

How did other parties start. How do you keep going.

There are many, many groups who election after election because they are committed to their beliefs, keep going.

So no suprise that the usual suspects bogged yet another thread down in repititious negativity.

Learn the names, so you dont respond to click bait and help other threads get derailed and stopped from providing an opportunity to share pro active ideas.

Forget the sneering, because in the records at the House of Commons and Electorial Commission it will be registered that there was a Party of Women who took part in the 2024 election.

And lets face it that is going to be far more of a lasting impacted than the unoriginal, tedious, sneering on FWR.

But of course on one level, as has been said before, this desparate attempt to try and drown us in negativity only illustrates how sucessful they think KJK is because they are so panicked they feel compelled to attack.

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Thanks for this. Women taking a brave stand like this are appreciated

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 20:00

IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 19:47

I innocently started this thread to provide some facts. This involved trawling through constituency results, etc., but thought other on FWR would be interested to know the outcome.

Maybe we could have talked about whether this was the start of something and what or how we could help come the next election. (PoW was only registered early this year.)

How did other parties start. How do you keep going.

There are many, many groups who election after election because they are committed to their beliefs, keep going.

So no suprise that the usual suspects bogged yet another thread down in repititious negativity.

Learn the names, so you dont respond to click bait and help other threads get derailed and stopped from providing an opportunity to share pro active ideas.

Forget the sneering, because in the records at the House of Commons and Electorial Commission it will be registered that there was a Party of Women who took part in the 2024 election.

And lets face it that is going to be far more of a lasting impacted than the unoriginal, tedious, sneering on FWR.

But of course on one level, as has been said before, this desparate attempt to try and drown us in negativity only illustrates how sucessful they think KJK is because they are so panicked they feel compelled to attack.

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I think that's very optimistic. English Heritage Party and Scotland Family Alliance got more votes - but I don't think many people know who they are.

This board gives a magnified view of this issue. In reality no-one is going to remember this at the next election.

IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 19:47

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 19:31

Yes you are right, it is extremely annoying.

I innocently started this thread to provide some facts. This involved trawling through constituency results, etc., but thought other on FWR would be interested to know the outcome.

Maybe we could have talked about whether this was the start of something and what or how we could help come the next election. (PoW was only registered early this year.)

How did other parties start. How do you keep going.

There are many, many groups who election after election because they are committed to their beliefs, keep going.

So no suprise that the usual suspects bogged yet another thread down in repititious negativity.

Learn the names, so you dont respond to click bait and help other threads get derailed and stopped from providing an opportunity to share pro active ideas.

Forget the sneering, because in the records at the House of Commons and Electorial Commission it will be registered that there was a Party of Women who took part in the 2024 election.

And lets face it that is going to be far more of a lasting impacted than the unoriginal, tedious, sneering on FWR.

But of course on one level, as has been said before, this desparate attempt to try and drown us in negativity only illustrates how sucessful they think KJK is because they are so panicked they feel compelled to attack.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 19:42

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52

Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.

What does your school/trust teach when it comes to Gender Identity Theory?

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:41

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 19:28

At least they tried, what exactly did you do?

I've done loads thanks. Both for women and for various political parties.
I'm not interested in supporting people who "raise awareness" by picking fights and calling names.
I think KJK and her approach has done the GC cause way more harm than good.

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 19:31

NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 19:28

Don't do it to yourself. Disengage, it's not worth it!

Yes you are right, it is extremely annoying.

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 19:28

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:24

Anyway this is a nice distraction from the fact that PoW was an absolute damp squib 😂

At least they tried, what exactly did you do?

NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 19:28

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Don't do it to yourself. Disengage, it's not worth it!

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:27

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ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 19:27

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CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:24

Anyway this is a nice distraction from the fact that PoW was an absolute damp squib 😂

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:22

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 18:20

Someone ought to tell the labour transactivist claiming to "breast feed" their baby that they don't exist according to a poster on this thread:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/07/03/the-bizarre-case-of-the-breastfeeding-dad/

And of course, good old Pink News were swiftly on the case: (apologies for the link to such a conspiracy theory site)

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/28/trans-women-breastfeeding-explainer-research/

This labour MP didn't think it ws a conspiracy theory:

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23642716.norwich-mp-clive-lewis-criticised-trans-breastfeeding/

Google will take you to links about the hospital that promoted men feeding babies with their secretions.

But of course this doesn't happen....... until it does

I tend not to believe things that people with delusions say.

You know the hospital did no such thing and it's overexaggerated nonsense.

This is really irresponsible scare mongering.

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:20

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:58

No it's not a conspiracy theory at all, there are threads about it if you want to go look. It's not scaremongering, if it's already happening.

There are plenty of threads regurgitating the conspiracy theory, nothing that proves that trans women can lactate enough to feed a baby and even less that enough TW are trying to, to impact breastfeeding groups Confused

Datun · 06/07/2024 19:19

it's so tedious that women have to constantly provide the links that they've done over and over for years, because of people's scepticism, a lot of which I don't believe.

If children are not being taught that gender dysphoria as a mismatch between your internal gender and your sex, is a made up illness, then yes it's happening.

if they're not taught that there's absolutely no evidence for an internal sense of gender, then yes it's happening.

If they're not completely (age appropriately) aware that many adult men purporting to be women have a fetish, then yes it's happening.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 18:20

Someone ought to tell the labour transactivist claiming to "breast feed" their baby that they don't exist according to a poster on this thread:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/07/03/the-bizarre-case-of-the-breastfeeding-dad/

And of course, good old Pink News were swiftly on the case: (apologies for the link to such a conspiracy theory site)

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/28/trans-women-breastfeeding-explainer-research/

This labour MP didn't think it ws a conspiracy theory:

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23642716.norwich-mp-clive-lewis-criticised-trans-breastfeeding/

Google will take you to links about the hospital that promoted men feeding babies with their secretions.

But of course this doesn't happen....... until it does

The bizarre case of the breastfeeding dad

Now babies are being used as props to indulge men’s fantasies about being mothers.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/07/03/the-bizarre-case-of-the-breastfeeding-dad

Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 18:18

NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 17:02

I have a 'new government resolution' (I never do new year ones, but this'll do!): DO NOT ENGAGE! In the absence of a 'block poster' option, I'm going to try very very hard to simply grey rock. Better for my blood pressure (and delete count!) that way. 😁

Excellent advice, I shall take heed and ignore the derailers from here on in.

Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 18:15

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 17:05

I never told you anything, @rabbitwoman . I never made any unsubstantiated claims.
I would, however, prefer to look at evidence and verify some of the claims, which I will do.

Why didn’t you do that before you called people liars?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 18:10

Empress - until 2022 Ofsted were promoting the teaching of gender identity in schools and shamefully sanctioning primary schools who weren't doing this (Ofsted were Stonewall champions). They were outed by the Telegraph after Stonewall whined (in print) that Ofsted weren't having enough conversations with primary children about gender identity. Ofsted promptly dumped Stonewall and have reverse ferreted quietly - hoping nobody will ask why the school's regulatory body were taking instructions from a dangerous transactivist group:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/18/ofsted-cites-lack-gender-identity-lessons-factor-primary-school/

Ofsted cites lack of gender identity lessons as factor in primary school grading

Analysis of pre-Covid inspections show that teaching about gender issues played a part in determining schools’ final grades

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/18/ofsted-cites-lack-gender-identity-lessons-factor-primary-school

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:58

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 17:51

Men suckling babies is a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence a male can lactate enough to feed a baby. And even less evidence that enough males have those fetishes to overrun breastfeeding and menopause groups.

It's scaremongering that's happened because of the strange politicisation of the debate. I'm really hoping it goes away now for a few years at least.

No it's not a conspiracy theory at all, there are threads about it if you want to go look. It's not scaremongering, if it's already happening.

EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 17:57

rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 17:28

So, if not all children are being taught this, why are ANY children being taught this?

How did this get into some schools - and cause chaos, quite frankly - but not others?

If its not generally accepted, and should not be, why are some schools saying it is? Why are teachers afraid of saying anything?

Why is it, when we do, we get told we are bigots and fascists? Or, we get told it is NOT happening.

Which you have just done, @EmpressOfTheThread . And then run off.

OK, I get it. You think it's a panic, you think teachers like me are exaggerating? What if we are not? What if real, irreversible harm is being done in SOME schools?

Frustrating and I get what you’re saying

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 17:51

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:19

Why is it so far fetched when they have shoehorned themselves into every other women only spaces including rape and domestic violence support groups and refuges. There's loads of them who want to be "pregnant"and "breastfeed" these are common fetishes in the community from what i've seen and some have suckled babies with their vile moob juice, that has already happened.
Who knows what will happen in the future with puberty blockers and surgery for teens, we can only hope that it is a thing of the past thanks to the Cass review.

Men suckling babies is a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence a male can lactate enough to feed a baby. And even less evidence that enough males have those fetishes to overrun breastfeeding and menopause groups.

It's scaremongering that's happened because of the strange politicisation of the debate. I'm really hoping it goes away now for a few years at least.

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 17:46

Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 16:57

The usual suspects here to shut the women up.

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I am a woman. Joining in the conversation.