Party of Women – number of votes for 16 women brave enough to take a public stand

AstonScrapingsNameChange · Today 14:52

Crikey, your colleague is a bit of a plonker.

I think saying menopause and breastfeeding groups will be overwhelmed by men is scaremongering, yes. Which is what the poster said.

You can find as many links as you want to services being trans inclusive, that is not at all the same as "overwhelmed by men".

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.
They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

La leche league, Cassie. You said yourself you don't believe men can lactate. So what the fuck are they doing there?

Still claiming it's "hyperbole designed to scare women." ??

Um, before jumping to one tiny bit of the post, maybe consider my "IT ALREADY HAS HAPPENED" response was to your denial that self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities - would happen.

So maybe read the post I was replying to before you tell me I'm ill informed and shouting IT ALREADY HAS HAPPENED at me

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

A transgender woman has been able to breastfeed a baby in the first recorded case of its kind, researchers say.

This case report underlined that lactation induction protocols commonly used for cisgender women are also effective in transgender women. However, the amount of milk produced may not be sufficient for exclusive nursing. Nevertheless, success of induced lactation may be attributed to its importance for parent-infant bonding, rather than the possibility of exclusive chestfeeding.

If people think lactation fetishists aren't going to keep going on, and on, and on, they're naive.

The Internet is plastered with men desperate to do this.

Yes, KJK made that comment. I can't speak for her but I think her reasons are she wouldn't want to hire someone who believes they as a male have the right to use the female facilities at work. Not because they are trans per se. I could be wrong though. I can understand women being reluctant to hire someone that could prove a legal minefield at work. The renting thing though is different.

I don't believe trans people should be discriminated against simply because they're trans. At least, that was my starting point. However, the more I think about it, the more I can see why someone wouldn't want to rent a house to someone so diametrically opposed to their beliefs, beliefs that they find morally repugnant and abhorrent. I would be uneasy knowing someone who fundamentally believed womens rights to single sex spaces is wrong and should be abolished, in fact shouldn't have existed as right in the first place (as many trans activists have told me on social media - we women should never have had the right to single sex spaces, according to them), was living in my house. Posting on forums, sitting in my house, posting those views. Advocating their position. That me, their landlord, didn't deserve our sex-based human rights as a woman. I could imagine them posting their views, from the loungeroom in my house.

It's a really horrible imagination. It feels dehumanising, just imagining it in my head just now.

Just as I can imagine many wouldn't want to rent to a Reform voter or a Tommy Robinson supporter.

Would you want to rent to a KKK member, for example?

So I guess my views on that are changing due to the visceral reaction I feel imagining that person advocating and activisting (if that's even a word) from my house. I would feel like I would need my house cleansed by an exorcism or something. So the more I think about it, really think about it and actually visualise it, the more I can see where KJK is coming from. We all should have the right not to sell or rent to someone whose views are so absolutely horrifically repugnant, that the idea would distress us.

There is considerable infiltration of breastfeeding groups, which of course were originally set up to ensure that babies were fed in as natural and nutritious way as possible. Now that focus seems to have slipped.

La Leche League

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/01/breastfeeding-la-leche-league-suspends-trustees-trans-women/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43071901

https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-024-00624-1

I'm gender critical but keep eating too many crisps.

Who'd like to go next?

Well done sinnerboy. There would have been one in our household (and 2 women) had we had a candidate.

My husband told people at his work he would have voted for PoW given the option.

I pulled up a male colleague last week for referring to PoW as the anti trans party last week. I asked him if that was true, or whether they were about women's rights.

He blustered and said they're 'extreme'. I asked in what way? He said they tell people that h if labour get in you will get the sack for saying TW aren't women.

I pointed out that even though this belief is currently protected by law, people already have been sacked for saying this.

He then blustered again and said he wasn't going to argue with me.

So, he was trying to mansplain women's rights to me, a woman, getting it wrong and then trying to shut me up. Ok. Tell me again why we don't need PoW mate? 🙄

You may be confusing me with someone else. I never once said breastfeeding or menopause groups are being overwhelmed by men.

There's no point. As has been said before, it's like arguing with a flat earther.

Whatever evidence or argument anyone puts forward in any topic, you sneer and say its not sufficient for reasons....

It's the same old same old every single thread....

Edit for typo

Please can you give me an example of a breastfeeding or menopause group being "overwhelmed by men"?

I think its hyperbole designed to scare women.

RubyTrees · 05/07/2024 20:09

(I think it's unlikely that many men voted for the Party of Women.)

I can confirm that there was one from my household.

That's at least two of us, then. Had I not had a candidate, I'd have spoiled my ballot. I did feel a little bit strange, when putting my cross on paper. There are a number of reasons why I felt that I couldn't vote for Labour and men in women's spaces was another stone on the balance.

Every thread Cassie posts on- under whatever name at the time- the pattern is the same.

Dominate a thread with ridiculous, easily disprovable claims, get all the women pointing out their idiocy, me-rail to satisfaction.

I'm gender critical but keep making stuff up.

I didn't say you had, I was talking about KJK

Luckily we haven't said that we want that.

It exists as evidenced on this thread alone.

I don't think women's rights is bigotry. I think wanting to deny a section of society housing and employment is bigotry.

Doesn't exist because it isn't true.

I actually think there are some penised posters on this thread. Posing as women to goad us. That's my genuine belief.

Knowing scum like him, it wouldn't surprise me if he truly thought that's what the centres should be called. They always out themselves.

Oh, so are we looking forward to that one!

If you think womens rights is 'bigotry', you're no feminist. Any more than I'm the Pope. Feminism doesn't mean centring men.