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Do we know who the new Minister for Women will be, or if we will even have one? Maybe Minister for How I Identify.

119 replies

IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 18:07

That's it.

I cant find out anything.

But suspect it is bottom of Starmer's to do list.

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Chartreux · 06/07/2024 09:17

teawamutu · 05/07/2024 18:28

Yes - and it's Culture and SPORT.

Why? There aren't any rules around these things.

Pleasegotobed · 06/07/2024 09:08

IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:14

I know lets all start tweeting or emailing or whatever nominating Rosie Duffield for Minister to Women.

At least she knows what a woman is.

Done! Let’s do it!

frenchnoodle · 06/07/2024 08:57

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/07/2024 19:13

Keir Starmer needs to know that women are 51% of the population. We're not going anywhere especially not for 0.01% of the population. Forget us at his peril.

He knows, he just doesn't care.

He's in now, that's it.

frenchnoodle · 06/07/2024 08:56

teawamutu · 05/07/2024 18:51

Fair point, well made. A full scale sharp protest wave to settle it early on would make a nice change from emails and polite meetings and shelling out for innumerable crowdfunders.

I suspect the ability to protest about trans issues will be impossible soon as it will be classed as a hate incident.

NancyDrawed · 06/07/2024 08:50

It's from a few years back and is quite long, but unless her position has changed significantly, women's sports are toast under 'Less heat and more light' Lisa Nandy. I find this excruciating to watch.

Toseland · 06/07/2024 08:47

Yes 'Media' does

misscockerspaniel · 06/07/2024 08:35

teawamutu · 05/07/2024 18:28

Yes - and it's Culture and SPORT.

To be pedantic, the actual title is Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.

Does "media" include websites such as Mumsnet?

Iwishihadariver · 06/07/2024 07:26

I'd like to see Jess Phillips as women's minister. Despite her fence sitting, she very firmly and publicly understands all the bad stuff being a woman brings. She's also aware of the strength of feeling there is amongst the public and women especially for women only spaces and services.

If she does also have a tendency for twaw, then she'll have to at least be thoughtful about balancing her conflicting opinions. That can only be helpful to making progress.

GoldViper · 06/07/2024 06:33

UtopiaPlanitia · 05/07/2024 19:10

Thanks to Dennis Kavanagh I always think of her as "Confused Fraggle, Annaliese Dodds".

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Oh I love the Queen's Speech. They're hilarious 😂

NotBadConsidering · 06/07/2024 03:48

Pretty telling that it’s the only one yet to be filled, isn’t it?

duc748 · 06/07/2024 01:41

Thangam for Lisa Nandy isn't much of a swap.

IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 00:42

According to this article (published on 2 hours ago) this position still hasn't been filled.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw0yg50zy5vo

This article has an interesting chart showing who had the role and has then got it in the new Cabinet, and who hasn't.
https://labourlist.org/2024/07/labour-general-election-results-starmer-new-cabinet-full-list/

Seems that Emily Thornberry has lost the chance to really be Attorney General, and Starmer has handed it to an old crony (male).

" ... The PM has chosen Richard Hermer as attorney general, rather than Emily Thornberry who had shadowed the role.

Mr Hermer, a friend of Sir Keir's from when he was a barrister, will receive a life peerage to allow him to sit in the House of Lords and attend cabinet ... "

That's a nice reward for loyalty, or is it just women's role to keep the seat warm for a man who needs to be appointed once it is a real position. (Not a supporter of Thornberry but its a very public insult.)

Quote is from BBC article posted higher up.

New Labour cabinet: Full list of MP and shadow cabinet moves as they happen – LabourList

With Keir Starmer now formally appointed as Prime Minister by the King, his task is to appoint his cabinet and decide which of his MPs…

https://labourlist.org/2024/07/labour-general-election-results-starmer-new-cabinet-full-list

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radiatorbed · 05/07/2024 21:50

FartyBrainedHippo · 05/07/2024 21:32

Well Ange did say she was going to keep his seat warm Envy

She did. 🙄

FartyBrainedHippo · 05/07/2024 21:32

Well Ange did say she was going to keep his seat warm Envy

radiatorbed · 05/07/2024 21:29

FartyBrainedHippo · 05/07/2024 21:28

I'm fully expecting Lily Madigan to pop up out of oblivion for this role.

Blast from the past there. The lovely fragrant Liam.

FartyBrainedHippo · 05/07/2024 21:28

I'm fully expecting Lily Madigan to pop up out of oblivion for this role.

radiatorbed · 05/07/2024 21:17

UtopiaPlanitia · 05/07/2024 19:10

Thanks to Dennis Kavanagh I always think of her as "Confused Fraggle, Annaliese Dodds".

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😂

LakeTiticaca · 05/07/2024 19:25

Probably some bloke with a beard in a dress and heels

IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:14

I know lets all start tweeting or emailing or whatever nominating Rosie Duffield for Minister to Women.

At least she knows what a woman is.

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SquirrelSoShiny · 05/07/2024 19:13

Keir Starmer needs to know that women are 51% of the population. We're not going anywhere especially not for 0.01% of the population. Forget us at his peril.

UtopiaPlanitia · 05/07/2024 19:10

YesYesAllGood · 05/07/2024 18:13

Annaliese Dodds. I fear we could be in trouble.

Thanks to Dennis Kavanagh I always think of her as "Confused Fraggle, Annaliese Dodds".

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 19:05

Isn't she also Chair of the Labour Party? This might not be a Cabinet post, if so it's not going to look good.

duc748 · 05/07/2024 19:00

crumpet · 05/07/2024 18:51

Is X right that Nandy has got Sport? Coupled with Dodds as Equalities that is going to be hard going

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Yes, Actually this link confirms Nandy, but not Dodds yet. But she was the Shadow, I'm sure it will be confirmed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0veg88g7jyo

Graphic showing Angela Rayner, Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves

Who's in Keir Starmer's new cabinet?

Prime Minister Keir Starmer appoints Labour MPs to cabinet positions after landslide election victory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0veg88g7jyo

Andthereitis · 05/07/2024 18:56

My concern is that women's rights impact on not only those affected by the trans stuff at work, school, but on every aspect of womanly existence.

On another thread someone said they had been transplained (my words not theirs) bby a trans person giving diversity training.

They went on to say they were more bothered by "inequality, poverty, NHS, education, violence against women & girls "

Well actually every single one of those issues is made worse by men being in women's spaces.
Poor women are more likely to end up in prison.
NHS made unsafe due to being gaslit when rape takes place by a "woman with a penis"
Inequality happens when men take the places designated for women.
Violence against women happens majoritively because of men being violent.

I believe in biology and I know humans can not change sex. The fact some idiot MPs believe they can will do us immense damage.

Cass needs to be pushed forward and our safety enshrined again in law.

What loo should a man use? The mens. Simple.

I wouldn't put it past this lot to have a man as women's minister.

peanutbuttertoasty · 05/07/2024 18:53

Just seen the full lineup. We are absolutely fucked…!