Exit Polls

I think there's an element of that, yes.

That's what I braced for @Ereshkigalangcleg

I wonder if they put the gender magic stuff through focus groups at all? Or is it all #nodebate even at party policy level?

Yes it's definitely an anti-Tory result rather than a pro labour one and you can almost smell the ennui that explains the low turnout.

Labour will have overall power though.

So I hope they're not going to start the "some women have penises" reverse ferret shite again.

They will be under a lot of pressure to do so from their more left wing members.

Yes but apparently not with enthusiasm.
From the Guardian just now*
'Turnout on course to be one of lowest in postwar history, says John Curtice
Prof Sir John Curtice, the psephologist who led the team that produced the exit poll, said early results are consistent with widespread expectations of a low turnout."

Yes it's definitely an anti-Tory result rather than a pro labour one and you can almost smell the ennui that explains the low turnout.

Labour will have overall power though.

So I hope they're not going to start the "some women have penises" reverse ferret shite again.

They can't shut us up because we have legal protection. People like those Nurses and sports women are going to keep speaking up. The issue might not have been decisive this election, BUT people voted Labour to fix the economy, protect NHS and reduce crime. If they spend their time instead saying women don't exist then just like the SNP that pride will come for a fall sooner or later.

I completely agree, and I also don't think they will be cut a lot of slack, in the social media era of politics. People rather grudgingly voted to get the Tories out.

I said it was a big reason - there are others the corruption scandal, as you mention the ferry saga [the SNP failed to build boats], failures in NHS/Education, but they all combined in a particular SNP arrogance which destroyed them it seems.

It can be disheartening to see how deep gender stuff is entrenched in certain sectors, but it can also be peculiarly fragile remember ordinary people generally don't accept its extremes.

A big crisis Labour faced in this campaign was over women's issues and from this point they OWN control over the crisis points like prisons, changing rooms, schools, NHS, sports etc.

They can't shut us up because we have legal protection. People like those Nurses and sports women are going to keep speaking up. The issue might not have been decisive this election, BUT people voted Labour to fix the economy, protect NHS and reduce crime. If they spend their time instead saying women don't exist then just like the SNP that pride will come for a fall sooner or later.

If she holds on it should send a message.

Women took down the SNP which dominated Scotland. If Labour continue to push gender nonsense sooner or later they will get them too.

I was talking to a Scottish friend in the pub yesterday, no gender stuff was brought up on either side, I don't know her views. I asked her about the downfall of the SNP, she said it was the money. But I think Isla Bryson etc preceded that and was instrumental?

Very true.

Plus though Labour might not want to admit it openly a big reason the SNP looks to be crushed is they could not accept biology is real.

Women took down the SNP which dominated Scotland. If Labour continue to push gender nonsense sooner or later they will get them too.

Wes Streeting knows this and other sensible people in Labour. So we gather in greater numbers and hold them to account.

On top of all that, the Overton Window has shifted. Many people support GC views. We WILL carry on speaking out, we WILL defend our rights and - possibly most importantly - we WILL continue to fund and win court cases.

This.

Quite.

And KJK and a Party of Women.

I'm hoping to see the SNP get a sound thrashing though I'm apprehensive about the overall results.

Looks like it does.

Hear hear!

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I told my SNP candidate that this was the first time I hadn't voted SNP. Just wish she'd asked why. I guess she couldn't.

Always hubris before a downfall.

RIP women's rights, in England at least. Be careful what you wish for.....

Woohooo 🥳 hoping exit poll is a true reflection

Labour doesn't have total power?

Are you looking at the same poll?

All this stuff about the tories winning 40 seats was always nonsense. This is the landslide predicted