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Anyone else here voting Reform UK?

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 17:56

I am, Tories can’t be trusted and got us into the mess we are in now and we all know that lib/lab/snp and green will do to women’s rights.

i don’t expect reform to win much but I read to say that amongst young males labour and Reform are both polling at 35% Among young women though Reform are polling very badly and Labour are polling exceptionally high. I guess if women are happy to vote their rights away that is their choice but I won’t.

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mnahmnah · 04/07/2024 18:58

My BIL had a Reform canvasser try to give him a flyer yesterday. He said no thanks, because you’re racists.

Her response?

’So?’

Says it all really.

TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:56

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

HE is representative of a 'normal middle aged guy?' and a GENTLEMAN?!
Sweet, no.

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:47

Oh bless you.
What did Farage say to give you an impression he gives two hoots about women?!

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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IwantToRetire · 04/07/2024 18:51

peebles32 · 04/07/2024 18:41

I live in a predominantly Tory area and I am amazed how many people are voting Reform. The whole thing is a mess.

I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but in fact (if you believe the media) a lot of people who want to "punish" the Tories are voting Reform because it means fewer Tories. ie a negative vote.

And again according to the media, the largest group of undecided voters are older women who have formely been Tory voters.

So in fact like many voting Labour this time, it isnt a positive choice it is an anti Tory vote.

CalamitiousJoan · 04/07/2024 18:51

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:48

For me this is so, so funny. I’m actually looking forward to seeing the results rolling in tonight. I know reform aren’t going to win and Labour would almost certainly win anyway but for me it is hilarious to see feminists vote for the Labour Party when we all know what they’re going do to women’s rights when they get in.

What I also find funny is seeing karma in action. Some of the people who accused reform of being “fascists” without evidence are going to be the first to complain about being smeared as fascists when the Labour Party gain control of this country in the next week or so. They’re going to demand evidence and claim it’s an outrage to smear people like that when it happens to them.

Repealing the Equalities Act would mean employers could discriminate against women; they could refuse to employ them, fire them for getting pregnant, demote them at will, pay them less than men.

How on earth do you see this party protecting women’s rights?

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:48

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 18:30

I voted Labour, partly for tactical reasons.

For me this is so, so funny. I’m actually looking forward to seeing the results rolling in tonight. I know reform aren’t going to win and Labour would almost certainly win anyway but for me it is hilarious to see feminists vote for the Labour Party when we all know what they’re going do to women’s rights when they get in.

What I also find funny is seeing karma in action. Some of the people who accused reform of being “fascists” without evidence are going to be the first to complain about being smeared as fascists when the Labour Party gain control of this country in the next week or so. They’re going to demand evidence and claim it’s an outrage to smear people like that when it happens to them.

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TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:47

Oh bless you.
What did Farage say to give you an impression he gives two hoots about women?!

CalamitiousJoan · 04/07/2024 18:47

Reform would remove the power of the CMS to enforce maintainence payments and take money from defaulters, and make people (let’s face it, mostly women) go through court to get maintenance. It’s the policies like that which demonstrate how they really feel about women.

Their trans policies are based on prejudice and are in no way a defence of women’s rights. They would remove those themselves.

littleburn · 04/07/2024 18:43

What’s wrong with scrapping the equalities act? I just don’t see any problem with that at all. I’m old and can remember what things were like pre-2010 and they were fine as I remember it.

Wow! You do realise the Equality Act 2010 incorporated and replaced the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, Equal Pay Act 1970, Race Relations Act 1976 etc etc. Scrap the Equality Act and all of those protections disappear. That's what Reform wants for you.

peebles32 · 04/07/2024 18:41

I live in a predominantly Tory area and I am amazed how many people are voting Reform. The whole thing is a mess.

Radiatorvalves · 04/07/2024 18:40

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:34

I see. I could ask for evidence but I’m guessing you must be one of those left wing people who call women’s right campaigners and anyone else they don’t agree with fascists? Do you really believe that though? Or is it just a handy label to smear people with? I can never actually tell if leftists really believe all the things they claim to believe.

Given all the thoroughly unpleasant, racist comments made by Reform candidates - all on record- and the similarities with the polices of Moseley, the “fascist” label is accurate.

I believe in women’s rights. I believe in human rights. I don’t believe Reform do.

JurassicClark · 04/07/2024 18:38

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 18:28

The fact you think Reform care about women's rights is quite endearing.

Personally I think it’s a bit concerning. Maybe her friends should stage an intervention.

What part of lauding Andrew Tate made you think Reform was a party for women, @Rsfk35 ?

I would rather poke myself in the eye with a knitting needle than vote for those racist shitheels.

VerySadCase · 04/07/2024 18:37

Is this satire?

DiscoBeat · 04/07/2024 18:37

I mean 'safe' as LibDems are predicted to win

chocolateanddietcoke · 04/07/2024 18:36

I don't believe you would be in favour of scrapping the equalities act that protects the rights of women? If you identify with being a feminist? Are you still in the workplace?

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:36

Bigearringsbigsmile · 04/07/2024 18:34

I'm not a neo nazi so no

Well, if you’re happy to throw smears like that around without evidence be prepared for it to happen to people on your side of the political debate. Because anyone can just make unfounded accusations.

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chocolateanddietcoke · 04/07/2024 18:35

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 18:17

I highly doubt that it's because they care about women's rights

Absolutely, they want women in their place. It seems strange to vote for a party that would scrap the Equality Act 2010 and then think they care about women because they want to ban trans ideology in schools.

I would never vote Reform. They aren't even a wolf in sheep's clothing, they are full blown all you can see wolf.

Here here!

DiscoBeat · 04/07/2024 18:34

Nope, I'm not a nasty racist! I voted LibDem tactically to get Labour in our safe Tory constituency.

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:34

Auvergne63 · 04/07/2024 18:19

I don't vote for fascists.

I see. I could ask for evidence but I’m guessing you must be one of those left wing people who call women’s right campaigners and anyone else they don’t agree with fascists? Do you really believe that though? Or is it just a handy label to smear people with? I can never actually tell if leftists really believe all the things they claim to believe.

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Bigearringsbigsmile · 04/07/2024 18:34

I'm not a neo nazi so no

sparkles79 · 04/07/2024 18:33

Rightio

Hiphopopotamonster · 04/07/2024 18:33

Are you an idiot? Genuinely? Do you actually think Reform give a shit about women? They’re out and out hard right facists. Why are some people struggling with that. I honestly want to scream at the utter stupidity and blindness going on. Or maybe it’s not blindness at all which is even worse.

CeruleanDive · 04/07/2024 18:31

Did Farage's lauding of rapist and trafficker Andrew Tate not give you a pause?

TripBalzac · 04/07/2024 18:31

Or anyone who isn’t an incel or gammon.

FloofyBird · 04/07/2024 18:31

If you can't see the issue with scrapping the equalities act I'm not sure there's much hope for you op.

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