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Anyone else here voting Reform UK?

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 17:56

I am, Tories can’t be trusted and got us into the mess we are in now and we all know that lib/lab/snp and green will do to women’s rights.

i don’t expect reform to win much but I read to say that amongst young males labour and Reform are both polling at 35% Among young women though Reform are polling very badly and Labour are polling exceptionally high. I guess if women are happy to vote their rights away that is their choice but I won’t.

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 20:23

RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 20:20

@Rsfk35

so, do you have an opinion on my previous post or not?
You think that sort of mindset is acceptable?

Mindset acceptable? What am I? Orwell’s thought police making windows into men’s souls? It takes a lot of arrogance to declare another’s thoughts unacceptable because people will have reasons for thinking what they do, even if we dont understand what those reasons are.

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WhereAreWeNow · 04/07/2024 20:22

I could never vote Reform. I could never vote for Farage. These people are not good news for women, especially not if you're a black woman or an asylum seeking woman.

RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 20:20

@Rsfk35

so, do you have an opinion on my previous post or not?
You think that sort of mindset is acceptable?

YahdahYahdayYoo · 04/07/2024 20:19

I voted Tory. Reform has some tempting policies like supporting mothers who want to stay at home among others. However, I find their women centered policies are unconvincingly tacked on to the front-and-centre immigration headline tag. Their wimmin spokesperson on women's hour was unconvincing. My local candidate was just weird. I get the impression beyond the glamour of Nigel there's nothing of substance/depth. Not in this election at least.

littleburn · 04/07/2024 20:16

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 17:56

I am, Tories can’t be trusted and got us into the mess we are in now and we all know that lib/lab/snp and green will do to women’s rights.

i don’t expect reform to win much but I read to say that amongst young males labour and Reform are both polling at 35% Among young women though Reform are polling very badly and Labour are polling exceptionally high. I guess if women are happy to vote their rights away that is their choice but I won’t.

You do get that if Reform scrapped the Equality Act 2010 (which you say you support then doing), then you are actually voting to remove 50 years of women's rights legislation, as has been pointed out by several posters on this thread? For example, the right not be sexually harassed at work, to receive equal pay to men, to not be fired for being pregnant?

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 20:16

VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 19:59

If you are serious you will never get your wish. In five year's time I bet all the far right parties in Europe will have lost support as people wake up to what they really are. Same in the UK. Reform UK PLC will go the way of all the far right parties here. Into oblivion.

ETA: let's see what happens on July 7, shall we?

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Sure we will see. I’m not bothered if reform do badly though, all I really want is for the conservatives to do really, really badly. After that the Rump that is left of the Tories can either be infiltrated or collapse, again not bother which, just as long as we get proper right wing party that wants to roll back almost everything since the Blair years and introduce socially conservative values into the education system.

Also what could Labour do with a majority of 250 that they couldn’t do with a majority of 150? Nothing. It would make no difference except in one and one thing only. In a democracy a governing party needs an effective opposition to look legitimate.

If Labour won every single seat on a smaller vote share than Corbyn got in 2017 it wouldn’t give them any more power than Blair had, it would just make them look illegitimate. If they are going to win big anyway I’m all for it.

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HolaSenorita · 04/07/2024 20:15

I actually can’t believe any woman would be stupid enough and selfish enough to vote for this party.

What about your black and non-white sisters? And I say this as a white female…

PeasfullPerson · 04/07/2024 20:13

RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 20:10

OP:
what do you have to say about this?

Waiting to hear why this is acceptable 😠

placemats · 04/07/2024 20:11

WHY would you vote for that disgusting party?

Feck off!

RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 20:10

OP:
what do you have to say about this?

Anyone else here voting Reform UK?
PeasfullPerson · 04/07/2024 20:10

Sharing this in case anyone needs reminding that Nigel Farage is a middle aged white guy with considerably questionable views, which seem to be centred on his own perceived superiority, over anyone he views to be different from himself.

Imagine being that insecure.

(Absolutely nothing against middle aged white guys in general.)

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-most-controversial-moments-ukip-brexit-b1122381.html

A complete list of Nigel Farage's most controversial moments

Dubbed 'the man who broke Britain' for his role in the Brexit referendum and viewed by many as a far-right bigot, the Reform UK leader is to stand at the 2024 general election

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-most-controversial-moments-ukip-brexit-b1122381.html

TripBalzac · 04/07/2024 20:09

I guess all civilisations have their day.

Hairyfairy01 · 04/07/2024 20:09

littleburn · 04/07/2024 18:43

What’s wrong with scrapping the equalities act? I just don’t see any problem with that at all. I’m old and can remember what things were like pre-2010 and they were fine as I remember it.

Wow! You do realise the Equality Act 2010 incorporated and replaced the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, Equal Pay Act 1970, Race Relations Act 1976 etc etc. Scrap the Equality Act and all of those protections disappear. That's what Reform wants for you.

This. Do you actually understand what the equalities act is OP?

BIossomtoes · 04/07/2024 20:07

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 20:06

The whole of the western world is just going to shit.

Ain’t that the truth?

Sushilover14 · 04/07/2024 20:07

I voted Lib Dem

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 20:06

The whole of the western world is just going to shit.

LonginesPrime · 04/07/2024 20:06

I voted for Reform too. I do not like Labours policies on gender ideology. I'd never vote Tory.

Out of interest, D3LAN3Y, why is it that you would never consider voting Tory but prefer Reform over other options?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 20:06

mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:47

im 29 and i voted reform uk! i stand with everything Nigel has said, and i no they probably wont win but heres hoping people open their eyes and see we need REFORM UK i was up ready took my daughter to school and went straight to the polling station.

Can I ask why ? What type of reform you think Mr Farage will bring and how that will help a young mother like yourself ?

ConcernedOfClapham · 04/07/2024 20:05

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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Yeh.

good luck with this.

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 20:04

VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 19:59

If you are serious you will never get your wish. In five year's time I bet all the far right parties in Europe will have lost support as people wake up to what they really are. Same in the UK. Reform UK PLC will go the way of all the far right parties here. Into oblivion.

ETA: let's see what happens on July 7, shall we?

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You reckon? I think post-Covid the economic situation in the U.K. is so bad Labour are going to have to make a lot of tough decisions that will leave them very unpopular by the end of their term. All we need it to get the tories out of the way so l the right can unite around a proper right wing party. How that party will do in office is another matter entirely. I think Trump will be back in the USA to for similar reasons.

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Fruitflylady · 04/07/2024 20:01

No, how do you think they would make your (or anyone else’s) life better?

Appalonia · 04/07/2024 20:00

My Labour MP is full on TWAW. I DID go to the polling station today but I spoiled my ballot as none of the other parties represent me.

VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 19:59

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 19:07

Well that’s the other reason I voted reform. I want the Tories gone, I think there is only space under our electoral system for two large parties and naturally that would be a party of the liberal centre left and the socially conservative right.

problem is I don’t believe the Tories are socially conservative or right wing and they have preserved most of what the previous labour government did instead of trying to undo everything Labour did since 1997 and putting socially conservative values into the education system which I think any real right wing party would and should do.

but with only space for two big parties a proper right wing party can’t emerge as a possible party of government whilst the Tories remain where they are effectively blocking such a party. So the first thing that needs to happen is for the Tories to lose almost all their seats to create that space for a proper right wing party to occupy. I’m very heartened by the election results in France. Real change can happen, it can happen here too because about half the population are fairly right wing. But it can only happen if the Tories are wiped out at the ballot box first. So in this election I’m not really bothered who people vote for as long as it is not Tory and I’m even greatful to all the labour voters too much as I’m amused by it all 🙂

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If you are serious you will never get your wish. In five year's time I bet all the far right parties in Europe will have lost support as people wake up to what they really are. Same in the UK. Reform UK PLC will go the way of all the far right parties here. Into oblivion.

ETA: let's see what happens on July 7, shall we?

BeckyWithTheGoodHair010101 · 04/07/2024 19:59

(Sorry missed a chunk. First paragraph should have read that I would never vote for them)

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