Anyone else here voting Reform UK?

Sunderland result

Bridget Phillipson (LAB) - 18,847
Sam Woods-Brass (REF) - 11,668
Chris Burnicle (CON) - 5,514

11.6k after a standing start 8 weeks ago

Japanese health system if anyone cares
https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/japan.php#:~:text=The%20Japanese%20healthcare%20system%20consistently,to%20carry%20private%20insurance%20plans.

Well, well for profit hospitls are illegal, tariffs set centrally, a health service run by clinicians. Who'd have thought it ?

@mumofoneand2dogs
You stated you "stand with everything Nigel has said", and other commenters have brought up specific examples. Another commenter cited an article but in case you missed it --

Nigel Farage's party candidate describing autistic people as "vegetables":

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/reform-uk-candidate-described-autistic-people-as-vegetables-tvgtxkx3p

Reform candidate saying "Jews run banks", yet the party hesitant to suspend her:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13598359/Reform-candidate-Angela-Carter-Begbie-says-Jews-run-banks-party-remains-silent-calls-suspend-her.html

What's worse, a party which includes people who called women 'the sponging gender' and compared autistic people to vegetables, or a party which includes people who think that a man can grow a cervix, that children are born without a sex, and that women should just BeKind and let men in all their spaces?

(my answer is that they're both terrible, but it's irritating to see people who voted for a party containing idiots who have said awful things being sanctimoniously judgemental about people who voted for another party containing idiots who have said awful things)

I looked at their policies if you can call them that. They want to abolish the human rights act. which I think is very dangerous.
Women will become second class citizens, Andrew Tate that repellent individual is a big fan of the party. The other policies are oh so good to be true like 17 billion for the NHS. That isn't going to make a dent that is the mess that it's in, they are just an unknown untested quantity with too many very dodgy people as members.

A worrying swing in Sunderland South. Hopefully this will not be a sign of things to come.

I know almost nothing about the Japanese health system, I do know they have much lower levels of cardiovascular disease and diabetes than the UK. Maybe they fund it better ? About 40% of the doctors in my closest trust are overseas trained. About 30% of nurses. Also many of the ancillary staff ( cleaners, catering staff). Fewer in big teaching hospitals but the provinces and countless district general hospitals are absolutely dependant on overseas workers.

@cardibach I don't think there's any point trying to rationalise with that poster. They clearly don't understand what they've voted for.

Why? Genuinely curious, after reading what I posted, how can you think Reform care about you as a woman? What have they done/said to make you think they care about women?

Because we stopped having kids. Because we stopped incentivising it with tax breaks and support for women and parents. We should not have done that.

Sweet lord, they walk among us

Are you actually serious? People have posted newspaper links too. It happened. People aren’t being nasty to him.

yeah i do

Guessing you missed the part where a Reform candidate said women are the "sponging gender" and healthcare for women shouldn't be free so that the life expectancy gap between men and women could be equalised.

Yeah basically Reform want women to die sooner. You think they give a shit about you?

well said.x

Sorry OP you totally lost me on 'scrap the equalities act'.

video evidence? thats just a post you have screenshotted? there is no name who posted it, people are out to get him no matter what because he is getting more votes then what they thought! send me a link of him saying that with this years time and date. then i will give you and apology.

How does the health system in Japan work so well then? There is almost no immigration there.

@mumofoneand2dogs
towards the top of this page if you can be bothered to look 🙄

where is it ?

@mumofoneand2dogs - please care to answer on the proof I provided?

ill change mine to reform uk

At the risk of total derailing this thread - have a read of this. The NHS is not bad value for money- it has been systematically starved of funds :

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/data-and-charts/productivity-nhs-health-care-sector

Unfortunately I don't think the NHS will improve without fundamental changes - until there are less chiefs and more Indians nothing will get better.

And I'd really like a future where my daughter can get changed or go to the toilet without worrying about weird men occupying her space - but I guess that won't happen now 🤦‍♀️

I don't disagree with this, but the health service and our childrens' future is more important to me