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"More people regret Harry Potter tattoos than trans surgeries"

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SpicyMoth · 02/07/2024 20:37

Does anyone have links to any stats or studies that back this claim up (or preferably refute it)?

I'm assuming not, but am currently in a debate with a "friend" who is adamant that this is the case (and has history of being insufferable about this topic), but is unsurprisingly not linking any actual evidence whatsoever.

So far I've pointed out that the amount of trans people vs the amount of people who have HP tattoos is too big of a number discrepancy to even really be a valid comparison.
Also that the vast majority of trans people do not in fact even get surgeries, and of those who do it then depends of whether they're mild (such as FFS) or drastic (such as vaginoplasty/phalloplasty), in which case the complication rates for those are MASSIVE, and the likelihood of someone going through with those surgeries then turning around and admitting they've made a mistake will be incredibly low regardless of whether they regret it or not.

I linked to studies which back my claims up, no response of yet from him... Can't help but wonder why...

Ik this is silly and petty but he has form for this and I'm absolutely sick of "sitting down and shutting up" about it.

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Hotgirlwinter · 02/07/2024 21:43

Well numbers are irrelevant, statically only %s count.

So he is essentially saying that more
people who have HP tattoos regret them than more people who have transitioned regret it?

However even when you look at statistics there are always conditions - are we talking transitions that include surgery? Medications? Or we are including someone who dressed a bit masc and used they pronouns for a year before deciding they were just a lesbian but didn’t regret it because “no harm done” etc.

Context is everything but also, don’t debate or argue with someone who relates the gender debate to JK Rowling and Harry Potter. Honestly don’t waste your time.
You’re allowed to have your own opinion on gender ideology, it doesn’t make you a bigot, despite the best intentions to label us that

PurpleSparkledPixie · 02/07/2024 21:40

Apart from asking him to prove his statement I'm sitting here wondering what kind of HP tattoos there are. Is it fancy HP lettering, or a white owl, or a broomstick (quiddich) or that elf? Or is it JKR's face? So many questions... could you ask your friend please OP?

Warmwoolytights · 02/07/2024 21:38

I can’t begin to imagine how you would gather a useful data set of people regretting Harry Potter tattoos that would withstand statistical analysis.

WhereYouLeftIt · 02/07/2024 21:34

He made the claim, he can provide the evidence. If he can't, he is indeed talking a load of wank and I would tell him so.

nutmeg7 · 02/07/2024 21:32

Ask him where his data comes from. Sounds like a load of wank to me.

XChrome · 02/07/2024 21:29

I can suggest a reason why. He knows you're right but doesn't have the integrity to admit it. I hope he is not a close friend. He's just not that bright, is he. Anybody who would believe such a claim is not big on thinking.
A tattoo is also much easier and safer to remove than it is to reverse surgical changes, so it stands to reason people regret cosmetic surgery (of all kinds) more than they regret tattoos.

PermanentTemporary · 02/07/2024 21:03

I dont have data. Does the person youre arguing with?

Tattoos get done on impulse, a lot. Genital surgery and breast surgery does tend to have a longer run-up. So it makes sense to me that regret rates would be much lower.

The fact in particular that regret rates for bilateral mastectomy are so low should make me feel reassured, but I don't feel positive about it for what it says about us as a society, any more than I feel great about breast augmentation and botox being as common as colds.

Past regret rates are, however, based on a past cohort. What the current cohort of young adults will feel a little later on, and in particular what they will call it (probably not 'regret') remains to be seen.

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