Starmer tw don't have the right to use women only toilets

That may actually be a game changer for me then when it comes to voting labour. I was on the shelf before but if he is on record as saying this then it may just have got them my vote.

I genuinely think that the interview with Jane will be one of those key moments in the election - a bit like how we all remember that viral video clip of the woman yelping "what again, another one?" when told there was going to be another election.

If Kier fucks this up on Thursday, it will be comparable to the moment Gordon Brown called that lady a bigot.

I think she has too. It was that sigh and we don’t care about what you did etc

That pure frustration it was real

I genuinely think Jane has tipped him over the edge. The widespread support from the entire media for Jane's questioning has finally made him wake up and realise this issue isn't going away.

Note, no one is repeatedly asking Sunak this question. it's the ONE thing Sunak has been clear about. He'll fuck over women in every other way possible, but he's not being hounded by everyone over the same question.

Well, Starmer’s going to carry on telling us that he’s always ALWAYS supported women and there should be some extremely narrowly defined safe spaces which women and sad men can use. But he’s still not speaking to Rosie, Labour Women or the LGBAlliance

Oh.

What on earth are the Graun and Labour going to do now?

Wow.

in the Guardian

"About a fifth of respondents said they had either decided to spoil their ballot paper or were considering doing so, among them Sharon, a 60-year-old social worker and “lifelong Labour voter” from London who does not own her own home and has no savings...

Politicians, she said, had repeatedly not delivered on promises, such as building more houses, improving the NHS, or reducing knife crime.

“However, the final straw for me,’ she said, “is the issue of women’s rights.”
Sharon was one of hundreds of women who shared that sex-based rights for women and girls was a main political concern of theirs this election.
Women from across the country, dozens of them economically disadvantaged or with disabilities, said they would abandon Labour, the LibDems or the Greens over this issue and vote either Conservative, Reform or spoil their ballot – particularly women from marginal areas Labour is hoping to gain, such as Lincoln, Darlington, Derbyshire, Warrington North and Truro and Falmouth.
Various said they felt “politically homeless” because of this issue, with Starmer having repeatedly referred to the debate over trans rights as “divisive and toxic” culture wars.
“This isn’t a culture war,” said Kerri Clarke, a 46-year-old stay-at-home mother from Hertfordshire.“I’ll be voting Conservative for the first time in my life, as the child of Labour activists.”
Clarke worries that the current Labour party is “utterly uninterested in women, our rights to safety and dignity”.
“This is about supporting our sisters in prisons and women’s shelters,” said Anne, 61, from Burnley, Labour’s “most winnable seat”.

Having always voted Labour, Anne said she might abstain for the first time unless she hears something positive from Labour on the protection of women’s and girls’ “safety and opportunities” this week.
Tracy, from Kent, in her 40s and usually a Labour voter, is likely to spoil her ballot. “I want to vote Labour but I can’t bear to support a party that so struggles to define the word woman.
“There are some contexts where biological sex matters, and women’s rights have been affected in recent years by a failure of law and policy to recognise this. Starmer wants this to go away, but it’s not going to go away.”"
www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/02/this-isnt-a-culture-war-uk-women-feel-politically-homeless

There’s no way he does looking at his statements

Bizarre for someone who used to have previous career

Or is he just blatantly lying for effect

He seems clueless

I've said before, I'm genuinely not sure if he actually understands the nuances and intricacies of the situation.

Maybe someone has explained it now

Remember the Taliban said they would protect women's rights...

whilst I am sorry to be a natural pessimist be realistic that starmer even if he has finally made his mind up will not be influenced by a supermajority including many ultra trans MPs. It's the potential backbenchers you have to think about plus's support from the Lib Dem's and SNP

if I am wrong we have a Labour government with an effective opposition so those of you who feel Labour is a better option on other issues will still have that government.

If I am right we have a soon to be ousted starmer and can kiss goodbye to women's rights probably for some of our lifetimes if he makes constitutional change like giving 16 year olds the vote.

That's a left wing bubble perspective if ever I saw it. No-one could take them seriously and voted for an increased conservative majority as a result.

The fact that these losers have gone elsewhere is entirely due to no-one having any reason to listen to them anymore.

They think we're just women, just mums, we don't have any experience in politics.
They forgot they kicked us out of the party.

I'm marvelling(?) at how stupid Labour HQ thinks women are. So obvious there's been a deal done. They haven't even bothered with confected outrage and bit of a skirmish. They've not even tried to burn the trail.

What psychiatrists' opinions, exactly?

"This man has gender dysphoria"?

Right then, that makes him a man with gender dysphoria, not a woman.

No point in psychiatrists opinions then

Day late and a dollar short isn’t it.

It sounds great but:

1. has no teeth - ie no promise to enshrine it in law (eg clarifying EA)
2. no apology to or indication to hear Rosie Duffield
3. a front bench of MPs indicating the opposite. At best labour policy on this is incoherent, at worst anti-woman
4. deafening silence from stonewall/TRAs suggests it’s a pre-election sop

It stinks to high heaven. As PPs have said, I expect his view will have ‘moved on’ by July 5th.

Blimey. Deals are being called in or something

Cup of tea and off you go Keir. What a swizz

Willies. Willies. I love willies.

I haven't seen any howling. Particularly from Labour MP "allies".
They've cut a deal. Some sort of semantic legalese bullshit that justifies an AGP in a breast feeding class.

Yep, footy talk and what dog his kids want

I heard a bit about five a side matey stuff

Jumpers for goalposts! ⚽😀

Exactly

if the TRAs aren’t howling about this and denouncing him it’s because they’ve done a deal

I suspect he'll do whatever he is advised to do by his 'LGBTQ+ leads'. He's never been on top of his brief with this issue. He's handed it over to others.