Starmer tw don't have the right to use women only toilets

I don't trust KS one little bit. He has form for manipulating his words plus its a bit late in the day to suddenly start coming out with this. It feels like a deliberate attempt to woo women now that he's come under pressure. I'm not falling for it.

Brilliant article.

I learnt in The Women That Wouldn't Wheesht that Helen Steel (female half of the McLibel duo) was active in the protests against the Scottish governement's gender madness. Now surely Starmer, who famously provided pro bono legal advice during McLibel, knows that she is a woman of great moral integrity? Why can't he listen to her?

so, have labour generally read the room on women’s and girl’s concerns finally and are using clearer language? Is this a slip up by Starmer?

It is gas lighting to state he has been ‘clear’. That is very dishonest. The women in his party have asked for clarity repeatedly. Now he gives it but with a dishonest twist at the end.

The reaction will be interesting.

I dunno. I'm happy with 'very fucking shifty indeed'. 🤔🤷‍♀️

Edit: deleted, soz, missed the sarcasm.

That’s not what Bridget Phillipson said here six days ago:

'Always clear' utter rubbish. He is gaslighting. I don't believe or trust him. What about the labour plan to remove clauses in the new guidelines for schools? children should not be taught people may be born in the wrong body. They want that out.

I think Starmer will be ousted very quickly after the election and replaced with a twaw hardliner. We are screwed. We will be rubbing the handmaidens noses in all the crap they're going to suddenly find to whine about within months. And yes, I will say "we fucking told you".
I would LOVE to be wrong about this. I truly would.

If Starmer is genuine, Labour can start with schools by ensuring that all boys are educated that boys can wear whatever they like but that if born male, they will always be male and that mean that they must always use the male toilets etc.

Or maybe he plans to make all loos unisex. That will teach us, uppity women.

Wikipedia states how much good Starmer previously did for women when working as a lawyer. I’m confused 🫤

I can imagine that Stonewall and all the Labour gender faithful would be quite happy to have a coup and replace Keir with a true beiever once the elecetion is won.

ETA. That is unless Keir is that true beliver and he is just waiting to be in office before he throws down his cards.

I think the subtext is that he thinks men with a GRC do have an automatic right to use female toilets and the headline writer has just imagined some meaning he didnt say.

That Labour List article is even more clear than I realised, @EasternStandard thanks again for posting it..

So it looks very much like Labour did support clarification, caved in under pressure from LGTB+ Labour (and I'm going to stick my neck out and guess from Stonewall too) and now they're trying to pretend they don't think it's necessary.

We need a new word for shifty.

You are aware that the Telegraph isn’t a tabloid?

Have a nap if you’re tired.

*It is great if he is saying that now.

BUT he is clearly lying about ‘always said’.*

I wonder if he thinks he’s said that before because he’s said “women” before and in his head that means biological women. If that’s the case he’s a dreadful terf instinctively…

Something behind the scenes is going on definitely but I’d be surprised if even flip-flop Keir isn’t aware of what most people think, the science and the emerging sexual offending stats on this. If he wasn’t actually clued up he’d just go full TWAW like David Lammy and Angela Rayner.

Not defending his failings and still agonising about my vote.

I think the sub text is that men with a GRC don't have an automatic right to use female toilets, but if individual service providers choose to do otherwise and permit that, then that would be within the law. They seem to be abdicating responsibility onto individual employers, businesses, providers etc

Thank you @EasternStandard

Unless he commits to clarifying the Equality Act it's all just flannel.

@Floisme the support was April 2023

Then this lobbying https://labourlist.org/2023/04/lgbt-labour-urges-members-to-lobby-party-to-oppose-equality-act-change/?amp

Then Dodds in July

I was pretty sure at that point the support had been dropped. Cue loads of pro Labour reposting the Dodds statement and saying no they support it

He doesn’t intend to change anything just get through the GE

So it could be down to lobbying

It would seem so. And it's become pretty clear which lobby groups have Labour's ear and which ones don't.

'These newspapers are small, those ones are far away'.

Actually let's challenge Starmer to appear with Rosie Duffield and to confirm that he will make her Minister for Women . If he doesn't he is frit

I remember being lambasted for suggesting that had been dropped by usual posters

But I do recall the support however, and some time after that a press release came from Labour LGBT and they strongly condemned Starmer etc

So it could be down to lobbying

If Labour win I think all women should identify as non binary two spirited gender fluid double trans otherkin and then and only then we might be treated seriously

can someone design us a special flag