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Gender and the fall of the SNP

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ArabellaScott · 30/06/2024 23:42

https://wingsoverscotland.com/stupid-to-the-grave/

I'd say there were plenty of other failings to note from the SNP, such as infrastructure, schools, health, etc.

But there is no doubt that their dogged insistence that Isla Bryson is a woman has contributed to their downfall.

'The louder and more stridently the Scottish Government’s transactivist lobby has shouted about “trans rights”, the more public support for them has nosedived. “Gender recognition” used to be supported by a margin of 40 points, now it’s opposed by a margin of 30, and nobody wants transwomen anywhere near women’s spaces.'

Stupid To The Grave

I was going to write this article yesterday, but 2024’s miserable damp squib of a summer unexpectedly delivered a beautiful day – a perfect 20C of unbroken sunshine with a refreshing sl…

https://wingsoverscotland.com/stupid-to-the-grave

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SmudgeHughes · 01/07/2024 10:49

TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 23:46

Thank you.
They lost me as a Party member and voter quite a while ago.

I think Swinney will get a nasty shock on July 5th when he sees how many votes the Labour Party have picked up

Ironic, though, as Labour has supported the SNP and Greens all the way on gender.

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ArabellaScott · 01/07/2024 08:18

Improvements- free scripts; cut council tax; scottish child payment; free buses; childcare; free tuition fees; free personal care; free sanitary products; a&e performance; baby box ... that's the top ten.

It's actually interesting seeing so much of their work listed. Some of it pure spin, naturally, but they have done some good. One could argue they favour shiny policy over boring but necessary work like fixing roads and regular ferry maintenance.

The trouble is I won't vote for a party that says I'm 'probably racist' for wanting to defend women's rights. Just no, thank you. Treat me with contempt and I don't care about your median pay gap percentage. (1.7% for thise that do)

It's the authoritarianism, the refusal to listen, the purity spiralling, the furtiveness, jailing a journalist, framing Salmond, and the embezzlement.

Unhealthy power games.

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Goddessofcatkind · 01/07/2024 07:49

ArabellaScott · 30/06/2024 23:49

I got a flier from them today, listing 100 ways they've improved life in Scotland, policies and initiatives etc.

Not a single one is about 'LGBTQIA+' stuff.

Stable, horse, door, ...

Of course they didn't include LGBTQIA++++++ they've noticed that most people who know don't see those things as improvements.

lonelywater · 01/07/2024 03:32

UtopiaPlanitia · 01/07/2024 03:27

Thanks for posting the article Arabella that was very interesting reading.

I can see hints of things going the same way over here in Ireland and the government(s) (in both jurisdictions) making exactly the same mistakes - eventually the voters have enough of it and start to punish the politicians (and unfortunately social attitudes harden and LGB people will suffer because of it).

I really dont think that will happen because anyone paying attention can tell the difference between the entirely reasonable LGB community and the somewhat more deranged claims of the tin foil hat gang.

UtopiaPlanitia · 01/07/2024 03:27

Thanks for posting the article Arabella that was very interesting reading.

I can see hints of things going the same way over here in Ireland and the government(s) (in both jurisdictions) making exactly the same mistakes - eventually the voters have enough of it and start to punish the politicians (and unfortunately social attitudes harden and LGB people will suffer because of it).

lonelywater · 01/07/2024 01:45

lonelywater · 01/07/2024 01:44

what were some of these 100 "improvements"? (by which I mean real stuff, not reducing the incidence of toast landing butter side down by 35% due to anti gravity machines)

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bloody auto carrot-that was meant for Arabella.

lonelywater · 01/07/2024 01:44

TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 23:46

Thank you.
They lost me as a Party member and voter quite a while ago.

I think Swinney will get a nasty shock on July 5th when he sees how many votes the Labour Party have picked up

what were some of these 100 "improvements"? (by which I mean real stuff, not reducing the incidence of toast landing butter side down by 35% due to anti gravity machines)

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/07/2024 01:12

Oh and according to the bookies, ironically the only Edinburgh seat the SNP has a chance of winning is Joanna Cherry's.

(It's not my constituency but I hope Labour gets it. It will need former Tories and Lib Dems to change their vote)

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/07/2024 01:08

Oh that cheered me up for several reasons.

What a strange world we're in. I'm a die hard Unionist but Wings work in exposing how rotten the SNP is a joy to read. I've even made a small donation.

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ArabellaScott · 30/06/2024 23:49

I got a flier from them today, listing 100 ways they've improved life in Scotland, policies and initiatives etc.

Not a single one is about 'LGBTQIA+' stuff.

Stable, horse, door, ...

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TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 23:46

Thank you.
They lost me as a Party member and voter quite a while ago.

I think Swinney will get a nasty shock on July 5th when he sees how many votes the Labour Party have picked up