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Gender and the fall of the SNP

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ArabellaScott · 30/06/2024 23:42

https://wingsoverscotland.com/stupid-to-the-grave/

I'd say there were plenty of other failings to note from the SNP, such as infrastructure, schools, health, etc.

But there is no doubt that their dogged insistence that Isla Bryson is a woman has contributed to their downfall.

'The louder and more stridently the Scottish Government’s transactivist lobby has shouted about “trans rights”, the more public support for them has nosedived. “Gender recognition” used to be supported by a margin of 40 points, now it’s opposed by a margin of 30, and nobody wants transwomen anywhere near women’s spaces.'

Stupid To The Grave

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Seriestwo · 02/07/2024 10:28

I agree. She is an excellent speaker and brave enough to stand up for what she believes in.

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ArabellaScott · 02/07/2024 07:29

I don't see that a couple of flopped ideas add up to 'bonkers'. Regan has an enormous amount of bravery and integrity, rare in politics.

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IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/07/2024 00:34

Mylovelygreendress · 01/07/2024 23:08

I can’t agree either . She would have been a better leader than Humza but her support for women’s rights wasn’t popular with certain people ..

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Her support for the introduction of the Nordic Model, which light years ago, was discussed at an SNP conference was admirable.

The independence thermometer and the de facto referendum were risible.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 01/07/2024 23:31

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 22:49

@BloodyHellKenAgain Alba are a much smaller party and only have 19 candidates in the election; there are 57 Scottish seats up for grabs. Alba are also relatively new, only formed in 2021, and don't have the support base of the SNP or Labour. They'd certainly be an option for me if they were standing in my constituency.

Okay, thank you for explaining 🙂

Mylovelygreendress · 01/07/2024 23:08

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 23:05

And Ash Regan is bonkers.

I certainly can't agree with this. For a start she has stood up for women's rights mutiple times.

I can’t agree either . She would have been a better leader than Humza but her support for women’s rights wasn’t popular with certain people ..

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 23:05

And Ash Regan is bonkers.

I certainly can't agree with this. For a start she has stood up for women's rights mutiple times.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 01/07/2024 22:54

BloodyHellKenAgain · 01/07/2024 22:44

I'm not in Scotland so please excuse my ignorance but can't people vote for Alba for independence as well? Or are they a worse option than the SNP?

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They could, the person I was talking too wouldn't because Salmond & besides the SNP are great except for every policy they have 🤷‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/07/2024 22:49

I'm not in Scotland so please excuse my ignorance but can't people vote for Alba for independence as well? Or are they a worse option than the SNP?

Well firstly there isn't a majority for independence. And secondly Alba is a worse option than the SNP. Neil Hanvey isn't too bad but Salmond? And Ash Regan is bonkers.

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 22:49

@BloodyHellKenAgain Alba are a much smaller party and only have 19 candidates in the election; there are 57 Scottish seats up for grabs. Alba are also relatively new, only formed in 2021, and don't have the support base of the SNP or Labour. They'd certainly be an option for me if they were standing in my constituency.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 01/07/2024 22:44

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 01/07/2024 22:23

I agree unfortunately NCGrandParent
so many places where you could get a potato elected for the SNP 😩

Just last week I listened to raving about how they had to vote SNP because the evil Tories were responsible for all the terrible -long list of devolved areas 🤦🏻‍♀️
and had someone tell me they campaign for the SNP I explained all my objections to the SNP & she agreed with all of them except she wants "independence" so will continue to work for them regardless 🤦🏻‍♀️

I'm not in Scotland so please excuse my ignorance but can't people vote for Alba for independence as well? Or are they a worse option than the SNP?

EinekleineKatze · 01/07/2024 22:26

I honestly don't know who to vote for tbh, none of them seem to have a remote clue of how to improve the lives of the average person.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 01/07/2024 22:23

I agree unfortunately NCGrandParent
so many places where you could get a potato elected for the SNP 😩

Just last week I listened to raving about how they had to vote SNP because the evil Tories were responsible for all the terrible -long list of devolved areas 🤦🏻‍♀️
and had someone tell me they campaign for the SNP I explained all my objections to the SNP & she agreed with all of them except she wants "independence" so will continue to work for them regardless 🤦🏻‍♀️

NCGrandParent · 01/07/2024 22:18

TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 23:46

Thank you.
They lost me as a Party member and voter quite a while ago.

I think Swinney will get a nasty shock on July 5th when he sees how many votes the Labour Party have picked up

I fear this is an underestimation of just how sticky the SNP vote is. Why would any GC feminists vote Labour? I wouldn't be surprised if SNP held on to far more of their seats than some are predicting. Perhaps a much lower overall voter turnout but with a motivated SNP turnout.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 01/07/2024 22:09

WeirdButFuckingBeautiful · 01/07/2024 12:39

There was this car crash from Swinney on Nicky Campbell this morning after being asked how many genders there are

x.com/journalismseen/status/1807706266413744158?s=46&t=LKCl0Xpfq18iV_GpSov2ww

😱the silence 😵😵😵
you could see NC going against all his radio experience to NOT fill the dead air.

spectacularly bad - worse than the mid life crisis photos (although considering the modern male midlife crisis expression of choice I suppose we should be grateful for the car....)

TWETMIRF · 01/07/2024 22:05

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 20:05

@ArabellaScott The trouble is I won't vote for a party that says I'm 'probably racist' for wanting to defend women's rights. Just no, thank you.

OMG yes, I'd forgotten that. Nicola Sturgeon on people who are "transphobic" (i.e. didn't support the GRR bill): " just as they're transphobic you'll also find that they're deeply misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well” I'm outraged all over again!

Especially as it's the ones banging the trans drum that are likely to be those things

Seriestwo · 01/07/2024 21:37

TheShellBeach · 01/07/2024 17:29

Yes, I'd be distressed if this happened.

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Me too. She’s been amazing and I’m not a nationalist. Scott Arthur is well known and people are very fed up with the snp. I suppose JC is too

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 20:20

ArabellaScott · 01/07/2024 20:06

I don't know if I'll ever stop being outraged at the shit behaviour of the SNP high heid yins.

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And to think I voted them in. Them and the batshit Greens. My MP, who I met for the first time on my doorstep recently, told me, "Well, the SNP weren't the only party who voted this in." No, but they spearheaded it, along with their sidekicks, blocking women's groups from consultation, and it wasn't even a twinkle in Nicola Sturgeon's eye in the last Scottish Parliament election. Deeply unpopular with members and the electorate, and strangely coinciding with a massive fall in SNP membership.

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ArabellaScott · 01/07/2024 20:06

DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 20:05

@ArabellaScott The trouble is I won't vote for a party that says I'm 'probably racist' for wanting to defend women's rights. Just no, thank you.

OMG yes, I'd forgotten that. Nicola Sturgeon on people who are "transphobic" (i.e. didn't support the GRR bill): " just as they're transphobic you'll also find that they're deeply misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well” I'm outraged all over again!

I don't know if I'll ever stop being outraged at the shit behaviour of the SNP high heid yins.

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DuesToTheDirt · 01/07/2024 20:05

@ArabellaScott The trouble is I won't vote for a party that says I'm 'probably racist' for wanting to defend women's rights. Just no, thank you.

OMG yes, I'd forgotten that. Nicola Sturgeon on people who are "transphobic" (i.e. didn't support the GRR bill): " just as they're transphobic you'll also find that they're deeply misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well” I'm outraged all over again!

TWETMIRF · 01/07/2024 17:59

Paddy Ashdown would be turning in his grave if he could see the absolute state of the party today

Edit: Sorry meant to quote a post but got excited

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/07/2024 17:56

DrBlackbird · 01/07/2024 17:26

It’d be a real loss to political sanity if she lost her seat.

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It would be a greater demonstration of political sanity if she'd resigned from the SNP.

JanesLittleGirl · 01/07/2024 17:52

ArabellaScott · 01/07/2024 17:43

A quick google shows Ed Davey zumba dancing, Ed Davey bungee jumping, and Ed Davey hilariously falling off a paddleboard.

Odd man.

It is a very strange bucket list.

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ArabellaScott · 01/07/2024 17:43

A quick google shows Ed Davey zumba dancing, Ed Davey bungee jumping, and Ed Davey hilariously falling off a paddleboard.

Odd man.

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TheShellBeach · 01/07/2024 17:40

ArabellaScott · 01/07/2024 17:39

The ones of him insisting a paddleboarder push him off into the water were pretty bad.

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All pictures of Ed Davey are pretty bad though.
😂