I just don't know who to vote for!!!!

I'm voting Tory.

a/ my constituency is LD/Tory knife edge
b/ the Tory isn't a tractor porn loon
c/ gender bandwagon is not single issue for me, it is a health scandal, a school scandal, a social and legal scandal
d/ the secret is blue or red the government's hands are tied. There's a lot less change they can effect than they'd like us to believe

I'm a former LD member, voted Labour most frequently, centre left, remainer. I'm now over my reluctance to vote for the Truss/Brexit/tractor porn/rees-mogg party.

Keep GI out of schools! Keep our kids away from cross sex hormones! Keep men out of single sex spaces!

Yes. I don't think any political party deserves to crow about their performance, tbh. I suppose we want them all to be sober and sensible and thoughtful, rather than ebulliently victorius.

I don't think a thumping great 'super majority' is healthy at all.

I have tried to arrange a meeting with my local Lab candidate to try and discuss GC issues (I didn't say that was why in the email!) but haven't had a response. Given that it is between them and the SNP in my seat I think I'll hold my nose vote for Labour and then spend the next four years as a thorn in the MPs side showing up to surgeries and emailing often. The country, including it's women, won't survive more of the current Tory party so they need to go but GC women need to be firing up for a 4 year fight on sex-based rights.

The polling report one puts my constituency closer than electoral calculus but still a massive labour lead, tories 2nd and reform 3rd quite a way behind. Every single poll says Labour will overturn the tory majority here. I'll vote against Labour simply so they are aware not everyone loves them. Even in seats Labour win they need to know they can't take their constituents for granted and they need to listen.

And I would point people again to Scotland to see how our PR system is working out.

There are pluses and minuses:a broader spread, a greater variety of representatives, more coalitions, versus - very niche interests gaining disproportionate power, more coalitions, and worst of all imo - you cannot get rid of someone.

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Maybe look at this as a work in progress/Under Construction election.

The choices are dismal, the system is broken. No single party can deliver all the things that need delivering, or anything close.

Vote for who you think is best of a bad bunch and then maybe sign the Make Votes Matter petition for PR (You can also play Spot the party missing from the movement for change).

makevotesmatter.org.uk/sign-the-petition-we-believe-proportional-representation-should-be-a-priority-for-the-next-government/

Ok thank you I’ve looked and it’s 0.2% in it for a Labour majority. I’m even more confused 😬😬

postal vote so I need to decide tonight

This is a negative election (for the first time in my voting life). I don't think I am voting positively for any party but I definitely am dreading a Labour super-majority government so I will vote for the candidate best placed to beat the Labour MP (bit of a forlorn hope). I'm in a previously safe Tory seat but this time the polls have Labour to take it unfortunately. I don't like Starmer. He supported Corbyn and won't have changed his views since the last election. It's amazing how everyone seems to have blotted that memory out but that's the fault of the Conservatives that they have made themselves an even worse looking option!

As an aside, Sir Keir has a title but he's a socialist which does not sit well with me re whether his principles are really genuine. Maybe it's a good thing for the country that he might not be a genuine socialist after all 🤷‍♀️

And tells me that my constituency is a very close race between SNP and Labour ....

Geez, it's even worse if you feel your vote may actually make a difference.

Spoil my paper.

My conscience won't let me do otherwise

The pollingreport site seems a bit clearer about what polls its basing its stats on.

Thank you!

I’m also struggling. I have changed my mind on who to vote for almost daily!

People say vote for your local MP - well my local MP is Conservative and she has been absolutely brilliant! No joke. She has made some amazing changes to our local infrastructure & helped create many jobs. And yes, I am shocked as well.

But I would feel guilty voting Tory. Concerned voting Labour and shame voting Reform, Lib Dems and the rest are just pointless.

Obviously Labour will win anyway regardless of what I decide

Actually this site looks worthwhile, too and is supposedly non partisan:

pollingreport.uk/

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/

Supposedly very accurate reports/predictions.

https://www.getvoting.org/

Maybe biased towards 'Remain' but still may be useful for working out tactical voting, seeing who is second, etc. (edited for wrong link)

What is the up to date poll you checked please? That may help me make my decision- I’ve googled but can’t have got confused TIA

I'm also in an SNP seat. I think I'm going to vote Labour but I'm not entirely comfortable with that decision.

Thoughts and prayers, ooft.

I'm in a safe SNP seat. Pray for me.

I'm sorry but they won't notice.

Spoiling just does not make the slightest blip on the radar, although I can empathise with the desire to make a protest.

@BaronessEllarawrosaurus

I'm not sure what to do!!

i can see the concern over the NHS and public services but the ultimate issue is whether a Labour supermajority is good for women and girls. If you think the answer to that is no then vote tactically if you can to prevent it except if it means either a Lib Dem gets in or an candidate of what ever party who is a gender identity evangelist .

the problem we have with all parties is the lack of MPs these days who have had a real
job outside politics. If we had more M
ps who had worked in public services they would be better whatever party .

However we have to think of the calibre of some of the inexperienced Labour candidates many whose experience comes from charities and quangos who we know are captured and are likely to be gender extremists. Starmer cannot answer the questions put to him on women's rights which suggests there is a behind the scenes deal and a Labour supermajority risks him being outed and a raft of more extreme. MPs running amok with no effective opposition We've not had that before in British politics and it is scary

I wish the press would delve into the background of some of these new Labour candidates and subject their views on women's rights to full scrutiny as that to me is the real risk here. Like one of those films where the heroine is engaged in a duel with one foe and doesn't notice the army of baddies creeping up behind her ....

That's one of the issues with our system. I can't vote for the party I'd prefer to because they don't have a candidate in my constituency. Labour will win this seat, there's no doubt about that so I'm minded to vote tory just to send a message and hurt reform (they could take 2nd here)

Having just checked up to date poll reform are going to be 2nd here, won't hurt labours majority though

I posted this on the other thread

This has been driving me mad. Always voted Labour but did spoil my ballot last time. I'm in a safe Tory seat but my vote counts to the percentages, so I, for one time only will vote Tory. My guy is ok and understands my points of view and doesn't misunderstand the debate. I am absolutely terrified of Reform so I can kill two birds with one stone. Sorted, but I never thought I would put a cross beside a Tory candidate. How times change.

Now I've made my decision, I feel much better