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Coordinating spoilt ballots

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Binglebong · 29/06/2024 12:38

I know there is a thread about have you spoilt your ballot but this is slightly different.

I'm trying to hold my nose and vote for someone but there is not a single potential MP in my constituency who does not disgust me. I don't want to vote Reform or someone as a protest as it might be seen that they have more support than they do. So the liklihood is that I will spoil my vote.

I know spoilt votes only really get looked at if there is a huge number or if the vote is close. But just in case I was wondering if it is worth having the same thing written on all of them to show that it is a massive issue that is losing them votes. What would you suggest (if you think it is a good idea).
Respect my sex if you want my X is a good one but is it the best?

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CriticalCondition · 04/07/2024 13:23

I've debated long and hard about what to do over the last few days. My constituency was a fairly safe Conservative seat in the last election but with boundary changes and a Reform candidate predicted to take a significant part of the Tory vote it's much less predictable and I didn't feel good about simply spoiling my ballot.

So I put a clear cross in the Tory's box and also attached some middle class stickers 😉in purple and green over the other candidates's names saying 'Respect my sex if you want my X' and 'Woman = Adult Human Female'.

As you are not supposed to write anything on your paper this should mean that it'll get debated about whether it's a valid vote or not but, if it comes to it, my intentions are clear and my vote will count.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 04/07/2024 13:22

duc748 · 04/07/2024 12:58

Sharpie or pencil? 😁

Sharpie, took it with me specially!

AllMumsyWereTheBorrowedClothes · 04/07/2024 13:04

Thanks BinkyBeaufort that summed it up very eloquently - have used it too, but with an X placed such that it will take an effort to decide if it's a valid choice

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/07/2024 13:04

BinkyBeaufort · 04/07/2024 12:21

I don't want anyone thinking that I haven't considered long and hard how to vote.
I've emailed 3 candidates and had responses from all of them (two of them could have been cloned).

Since I was among the first batch of 18-year olds eligible to vote I haven't missed a single one. I have no allegiance to any particular party, although my inclination has always been liberal.

Today though, no cross for anyone.
Instead "Woman = adult human female, so if you want my X respect my sex", which I think about covers it.

Same boat here.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/07/2024 13:04

morningtoncrescent62 · 04/07/2024 13:03

I couldn't work it out. I very much wanted to vote Labour, and I wrote twice to the Labour candidate. He could have been worse, but he wouldn't give me a commitment to clarifying the Equality Act, and he touted the confused party/manifesto line on a conversions practices ban. I couldn't call whether to give him a chance or not. So I put a cross in his box, and I also wrote next to it, "Women's rights matter; women's access to single-sex spaces and provisions matters." I think that means they'll have a bit of a quarrel over whether it's a valid vote or not. You're not supposed to write anything other than your X on the paper, but counters are told that if the voter's intention is clear, they should count it. I think it'll end up being contested in my very marginal constituency, which means it'll get seen. As I absolutely couldn't decide whether to vote Labour or to not vote/spoil my paper (there was no other candidate I would want to vote for) I think this was the best I could do.

That's pretty clever.

morningtoncrescent62 · 04/07/2024 13:03

I couldn't work it out. I very much wanted to vote Labour, and I wrote twice to the Labour candidate. He could have been worse, but he wouldn't give me a commitment to clarifying the Equality Act, and he touted the confused party/manifesto line on a conversions practices ban. I couldn't call whether to give him a chance or not. So I put a cross in his box, and I also wrote next to it, "Women's rights matter; women's access to single-sex spaces and provisions matters." I think that means they'll have a bit of a quarrel over whether it's a valid vote or not. You're not supposed to write anything other than your X on the paper, but counters are told that if the voter's intention is clear, they should count it. I think it'll end up being contested in my very marginal constituency, which means it'll get seen. As I absolutely couldn't decide whether to vote Labour or to not vote/spoil my paper (there was no other candidate I would want to vote for) I think this was the best I could do.

duc748 · 04/07/2024 12:58

Sharpie or pencil? 😁

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 04/07/2024 12:57

I've spoiled my ballot. I wrote 'no' in all the boxes and 'Respect my sex if you want my X' across the paper.

BinkyBeaufort · 04/07/2024 12:21

I don't want anyone thinking that I haven't considered long and hard how to vote.
I've emailed 3 candidates and had responses from all of them (two of them could have been cloned).

Since I was among the first batch of 18-year olds eligible to vote I haven't missed a single one. I have no allegiance to any particular party, although my inclination has always been liberal.

Today though, no cross for anyone.
Instead "Woman = adult human female, so if you want my X respect my sex", which I think about covers it.

Ifittellsthebiggestlieswearstheloudestties · 04/07/2024 11:45

If it makes you feel better, voting for an independent with no chance is a bit like a wasted vote - similar to spoiling it?

I voted Green until this shit show. So, in a way I've been spoiling my vote all along...

twinklystar23 · 04/07/2024 11:31

I think getting the women's rights issue over is very important however you do it.

Though the number who thinks a penis is female I think my slogan will be quite clear!

That said I am so cross not even any of the independents mentioned it (all male) so I have no choice. Gutted as this is my second time spoiling my ballot. Doesn't feel positive in any way

Ifittellsthebiggestlieswearstheloudestties · 04/07/2024 11:23

twinklystar23 · 04/07/2024 10:38

This (drawing of male genitalsl) isn't This (female symbol)

No Balls in Women's drawers?
No Penis is a Venus?

Sorry I'm not very good at this. I'm just going for Sex Matters for Women's rights

lechiffre55 · 04/07/2024 11:14

Imagine a very close vote in a constituency, and a big pile of spoilt ballots in the corner, and a candidate thinking I would have won if those ballots had been for me.........

Shortshriftandlethal · 04/07/2024 11:13

Even if just one person reads the comments on spoiled ballots it all helps in banishing the idea that it is a total non issue. That one person may well tell other people the sorts of things that they saw written on spoiled ballots.

I stuck three ( very 'middle class' 😉)stickers on my ballot which obscured totally all the candidate boxes, and also wrote in red felt tip " Women have dignity too".

The stickers say 'Transwomen are men: women require single sex spaces, services and sports for their dignity, comfort and safety'

Brefugee · 04/07/2024 11:00

Tukmgru · 29/06/2024 20:47

I mean go for it if you want, but spoilt ballets are really only looked at by the counters, who are often drafted in for the night from local council workers. They don’t care what’s on the ballot other than whether it’s clear for one candidate or another, or invalid for one reason or another. Some party volunteers, likely no one senior, will also be watching each table or a cluster of tables and might see it, but probably not. It’s really not going to be something that anyone really registers, other than as invalid. But you do you.

but there is a record of spoiled ballots - nobody here is seriously thinking that someone is assiduously writing down what is on the spoiled ballots. 🙄

Someone i know has written "Don't vote, the government will get in" and made sure to put something in each box.

twinklystar23 · 04/07/2024 10:38

This (drawing of male genitalsl) isn't This (female symbol)

EdithStourton · 04/07/2024 10:26

I wrestled with my conscience all the way to the polling station.

Spoilt my ballot.

And made it clear why.

Janie143 · 04/07/2024 10:08

BloodyHellKenAgain · 01/07/2024 15:57

It isn't a waste of time. Staying at home and foing nothing is a waste of time.

Spoilt ballots are counted, recorded and announced. They have to be by law.

Their record is an important way of measuring the mood of the electorate. Imagine if 40% of all votes cast were spoilt. That would send a clear message of voter dissatisfaction.

This is true. The reason why staying at home is a bad idea is explained in this. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1808637781138129244.html

Brefugee · 04/07/2024 09:49

Floatingvoternolandinsight · 29/06/2024 14:27

Spoilt ballots are a mark of vanity. Pure and simple. "I want to show them how I feel" is not taking action.

of course it's taking action: it is saying that you want a better quality of MP candidate.

Not voting? is apathy and you deserve the government that causes you most harm

Collidascope · 04/07/2024 09:29

I spoilt and wrote 'I stand with JK Rowling and Rosie Duffield.' Felt those two grabbed the headlines in the last week or so, so it was an okay way of getting the point across. Husband also spoilt, saying Labour don't care about women.
I'm gutted that I couldn't go and joyfully vote for Labour after 14 years of the Tories.

MurielThrockmorton · 04/07/2024 09:09

Yeah same result likely here @Didsomeonesaydogs - one of those constituencies where you could put a blue rosette on a donkey and it would get in. I've always voted Green before, I was active in the Green Party from 1989 but left a year or so ago. I know there's a lot of criticism around spoilt ballot papers, but it's just the decision that sits with me best.

Shortshriftandlethal · 04/07/2024 08:41

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 03/07/2024 21:08

Ok this is just getting silly. You can read back on my posts and see for yourself that I've at no point told anyone what to think, or how to vote, or what to do. I've explained why despite being GC, I won't spoil my ballot.

You might if your local candidate had refused to meet with you on an issue that was very important to you, and if your campaign group had been referred to as a 'hate group' by that candidate, too.

Lots of Lefties ( I live in a Leftie city) seem to think it noble to vote for alternative candidates to Labour or even to spoil, on account of Starmer's treatment of Jeremy Corbyn and other Labour party members. Kier Starmer has been ruthless in seeking to silence and do away with any internal opposition or critique...for those at this sharp end spoiling is a perfectly valid thing to do - and which signals integrity.

Who would vote for someone who treated you that badly?

Didsomeonesaydogs · 04/07/2024 08:23

@MurielThrockmorton I’m just off to do the same. Prediction here is a conservative win but lower majority.

MurielThrockmorton · 04/07/2024 08:16

I've just voted and wrote none and woman = adult human female. First time in 35 years I've spoiled. I'm disappointed there's no party members here at the polling station and I've had no one round to the door.

ScribblingPixie · 04/07/2024 00:04

I'm definitely spoiling, and I know two other people who are doing the same. There is no one in my constituency I can support, simple as that. Really disappointing.