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Coordinating spoilt ballots

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Binglebong · 29/06/2024 12:38

I know there is a thread about have you spoilt your ballot but this is slightly different.

I'm trying to hold my nose and vote for someone but there is not a single potential MP in my constituency who does not disgust me. I don't want to vote Reform or someone as a protest as it might be seen that they have more support than they do. So the liklihood is that I will spoil my vote.

I know spoilt votes only really get looked at if there is a huge number or if the vote is close. But just in case I was wondering if it is worth having the same thing written on all of them to show that it is a massive issue that is losing them votes. What would you suggest (if you think it is a good idea).
Respect my sex if you want my X is a good one but is it the best?

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boys3 · 30/06/2024 08:50

Appalonia · 30/06/2024 01:19

In the article posted upthread it said that in the previous election there were 100,000 spoiled votes.

0.36% at the 2019 election

on average less than 20 spoilt ballot papers per constituency.

House of Commons Library has numbers for every GE going back over the past 60 years,

anyolddinosaur · 30/06/2024 08:50

Well I suggested "None of the above" to OH but he was happy to write in Party of Women. I showed him their 4 statements, he felt he could support them.

EdithStourton · 30/06/2024 08:19

I'm wondering if writing 'Support single sex spaces' might be the answer.

With SEX in massive letters somewhere obvious, just so it gets noticed. Possibly in red Sharpie.

Or just bite the bullet and vote Labour. Or maybe LD if the candidate sees fit to reply.

dunBle · 30/06/2024 01:52

BinkyBeaufort · 29/06/2024 22:17

Haven't read the whole thread, but I have a question.
DH and DS both want to spoil their ballot papers for this reason.
I'm going to use the Respect my sex one, but any suggestions as to what my lovely men can put?

I'd go with "Women AND men need single sex spaces, services and associations, so you've lost my vote" as all the Labour rhetoric has been around "safe spaces" or "women's spaces" but the single sex exceptions apply to more than just those things.

Binglebong · 30/06/2024 01:43

Appalonia · 30/06/2024 00:18

What about, We respect women's rights/ spaces, why don't you?

Excellent!

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Appalonia · 30/06/2024 01:19

In the article posted upthread it said that in the previous election there were 100,000 spoiled votes.

murasaki · 30/06/2024 01:15

Thanks. I think it might be higher this year. Not that it achieves anything, but it's my only option, and DP's too. He muttered something about voting tory for the first time ever, and doesn't want to, so I think it's two spoiled papers from our house.

boys3 · 30/06/2024 01:11

Just those who vote.

murasaki · 30/06/2024 01:06

Is that percentage of the total electorate of of those who turned up to vote? Genuinely interested.

boys3 · 30/06/2024 01:04

Typical General Election gets around 0.3% spoilt papers.

Peak spoil was 1979 - 0.38%

lostoldname · 30/06/2024 01:01

staff at many counts and people don’t really care what is written on a spoilt paper. All spoilt ballot papers are adjudicated and reasons for those that are rejected given
if you do want to soil your ballot and worried that it will be counted as a good vote as written in a boa for a candidate, turn the paper on its side and write across it

murasaki · 30/06/2024 01:00

IamAporcupine · 30/06/2024 00:51

I am curious - do you feel the same about those who vote for, say, an independent candidate who has no chance of winning?

I'd vote for an independent if I had the choice and their views aligned. Sadly I have con, lab, lib dem, green and reform, so I think I'm now as resigned to my action as I'm going to be.

AyrshireTryer · 30/06/2024 00:58

What a waste

lostoldname · 30/06/2024 00:58

Ramblingnamechanger · 29/06/2024 14:28

respect my sex if you want my x and none of these reflect my views was on my postal vote.
I am seeing media reports which say a lot of women will be doing this so they are more likely to be noticed. I am concerned about when/ if postal votes arrive and get properly counted. Does anyone know if it is possible to check somehow?Given that your name and voter number is in the envelope, it should be possible. Are they checked off on the same list or a different one?

all postal votes are opened and counted if the firm sent with them has been filled in correctly. The electronic version of the e electoral register is updated when your envelope is received so you could ring the council to check that.

IamAporcupine · 30/06/2024 00:51

Floatingvoternolandinsight · 29/06/2024 14:27

Spoilt ballots are a mark of vanity. Pure and simple. "I want to show them how I feel" is not taking action.

I am curious - do you feel the same about those who vote for, say, an independent candidate who has no chance of winning?

Appalonia · 30/06/2024 00:43

Just had a look at this thread in AIBU and SO MANY women feel politically homeless, and many who are voting Labour are doing it with a sense of dread and a heavy heart. We all know we need change, but there is a lot of anxiety about what an ideologically captured Labour Party will mean for women. This is NOT a partisan issue...

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5108270-to-ask-who-you-are-voting-for?page=1

Appalonia · 30/06/2024 00:18

Binglebong · 30/06/2024 00:17

Woman =adult human female is good. Or you could do respect my sex (or my wife's or mum's!) sex. They won't know who wrote it after all.

What about, We respect women's rights/ spaces, why don't you?

Binglebong · 30/06/2024 00:17

BinkyBeaufort · 29/06/2024 22:17

Haven't read the whole thread, but I have a question.
DH and DS both want to spoil their ballot papers for this reason.
I'm going to use the Respect my sex one, but any suggestions as to what my lovely men can put?

Woman =adult human female is good. Or you could do respect my sex (or my wife's or mum's!) sex. They won't know who wrote it after all.

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BackToLurk · 29/06/2024 22:30

It’s pretty vain to imagine no one but yourself understands what spoiling their ballot means.

EdithStourton · 29/06/2024 22:20

Floatingvoternolandinsight · 29/06/2024 14:27

Spoilt ballots are a mark of vanity. Pure and simple. "I want to show them how I feel" is not taking action.

Oh really?
Believe me, I am agonising over this election as never before.

Tory: actually a solid constituency MP, replies to emails etc. But I can't vote Tory: they have fucked up big time (Truss: say no more)
Labour: replied to my email; does, as an individual, seem to know what a woman is; is however rather wedded to the manifesto and seems unlikely to rock the boat. Is certainly toeing the party line on an issue of local concern.
LibDem: has not replied to my email; would be my party of choice, but their position on women is disgraceful, and I left the party over it some time ago.
Reform: fuck no.
Greens: awful on women. Never mind the actual Green candidate we have been given.

Spoiling my ballot will be a mark of rage and dismay at the utter fuckery of our political class. I want to vote LibDem but I doubt I'll be able to persuade myself to do so.

But yeah, vanity.
If you say so.

BinkyBeaufort · 29/06/2024 22:17

Haven't read the whole thread, but I have a question.
DH and DS both want to spoil their ballot papers for this reason.
I'm going to use the Respect my sex one, but any suggestions as to what my lovely men can put?

murasaki · 29/06/2024 22:00

I am middle class. I am not better or special. I had a lot of opportunities. I'm still furious.

Floatingvoternolandinsight · 29/06/2024 21:37

Shortshriftandlethal · 29/06/2024 21:11

Good for you!

I'll do my thing; you can gloat about your 'better' thing.

Are you middle class too?

I am not middle class. I am not better or special. I grew up in poverty, free school meals, low achievement schools and few opportunities like many others.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 29/06/2024 21:29

Spoilt ballots are a mark of vanity. Pure and simple. "I want to show them how I feel" is not taking action.

Voting is showing how you feel. So is spoiling your ballot paper. I don't see why there's anything 'vain' about saying 'None of the above, and this is why'.

DuesToTheDirt · 29/06/2024 21:21

Floatingvoternolandinsight · 29/06/2024 14:27

Spoilt ballots are a mark of vanity. Pure and simple. "I want to show them how I feel" is not taking action.

What do you think people should do if there is no candidate they feel they can vote for?