Trans identified man sues McDonalds for being denied access to women’s changing rooms

An acquaintance once posted one of those "can you tell the difference" things with photos of drag acts, transwomen, and actual women with surgery/inch-thick make up.

I did point out that all of them were caricatures.

There was a real phase on YouTube and other video based social media, for women doing make up deliberately to create drag queen bone structures. I watched a lot of these with teen niece and she really understood where the trend came from. If you look at the same women now, the hard sculpting has gone and there's way more working with the female facial structure.
I still see the odd girl on the street with brown diagonal lines from the bottom of her ear to the edge of her mouth (cheekbones from the front, dirty face from the side), but it's definitely going. Thank goodness. It was mental.
Of course, it turned out that one of the biggest influences on this trend according to niece is a Dutch makeup artist called Nikki, who came out as trans a few years ago. So Nikki had male bone structure, and was working (beautifully, very talented individual) with that.

Edited for terrible spelling

I find myself using g a new sort of aesthetic judgement about looks and fashion/ looking beautiful: “Does it look at all like drag?”

Fish lips and long hair on women older than about 16 looks like that or porn now.

Well, fashion has never worked for real women, where you need a degree in 3D geometry to make it fit. They don't like us.

Which reminds me of this article:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/9ffccf67-fb94-45a8-9ead-92dd075bd10e#

I was thinking along the same lines recently. Heavy and long term cosmetic surgery on female celebrities is normalising a "woman's" face that is mostly synthetic, (un)natural for either sex and achieveable by either sex. (It's kind of like Pete Burns' post surgery face).

Many of the go-to trans women celebrities (the fashion/media ones not the rent-a-TRA ones) don't look like natural women but they do look like this surgically created "female" face, and if that face is normalised trans women will seem more and more "female", at least in the media where their comparators are equally surgically adjusted.

When your material reality is a 'concept' in a bloke's head.....

Well. Head and other parts.

My favourite quote from his interview...
"Apparently they categorically reject women who don’t fit the concept".
So being a woman is just a 'concept' now is it?

Maybe. Kylie came to Germany from Libya*, so getting one over a muslim woman asking for consideration of her dignity might give extra points...

• Source for example (various others available): www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus252594080/Transfrau-bei-McDonald-s-Und-jetzt-soll-in-Deutschland-eine-konservative-religioese-Frau-vor-mir-geschuetzt-werden.html

That's why this has taken off. It's a massive pushback against women's rights, and they can pretend they're just supporting these poor helpless vulnerable TW.

This was him talking about being on a women's march.

The ladies loo full of smiling men?!

I have been wondering how it uses that orifice (can't call it a mouth) for eating, drinking and talking. It looks like some sort of stoma.
And if that's an indication of how we are supposed to use our mouths, I would like to remind men of that scarey myth of the vagina dentata.

This to be honest! If I saw this photo in the wild I would honestly assume it was a Drag Race pic.

That face fgs.
What are humans doing to themselves, and who promotes this plastic misogyny - the media and marketing.
Unless we do something about them, then it will never stop.
I mostly blame the DM in this country and the constant tsunami of Katie Price and all her clones since the noughties. And porn, its a mobius strip of evil.

I always remember reading about the Iraq war (the Kuwait one) when a load of marines and military police (US) were at a bowling alley, and it was hot, so one of the women was wearing shorts. And the Kuwaiti police came up and started hitting her legs with batons and telling her to cover up and she just got out her pistol and said "we just saved your sorry asses, get the fuck out of here" and carried on

Yes, I think a large number of Western men would quite like women to be put back into a more inferior place. They won't do much to help us, just like the men in Afghanistan who were mocking their female colleagues when the Taliban came back.

Reminds me of a female reporter (Hannah Allam? Don't remember. This was years ago.) talking of arriving in Saudi Arabia and having to get herself all swathed in black before she could leave the plane. She mentioned the glances and smirks of her male (Western) co-passengers.

Men smirk for all sorts of reasons. Putting one over on the little woman being a major one. You can bet the house that all the guys know perfectly well this is a dominance play.

No I don't think so. From previous reporting she was just the first one with the balls (ahem) to complain about him.

i go occasionally for a coffee (mostly at a station) so i'll just have to change that.

I'll check online here if anything is going on that i can join in

I feel sorry for the Muslim woman. This legislation is dreadful. From 'Kylie's' quote in the article @GrumpyPanda shared I wonder if he deliberately targeted her? (Rough translation 'Should a conservative religious woman be protected before me?')

I suppose it's not a boycott if one wasn't frequenting them anyway?

What this really needs is some solid counter-suits. In the Twitter thread discussing this one poster pointed out a conflict with the Arbeitsschutzgesetz.