Gender GP Helen Webberley interview in the Times

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The throwaway comment about the former employee who won a tribunal against GenderGP and is owed about £90k is also breathtaking.

That is a great piece.
My highlights

GenderGP is registered in Singapore, a country where gay marriage is illegal, and is not registered with England’s Care Quality Commission.

GenderGP has ditched health advisers in favour of providing transgender people with “self-service” treatment recommendations using an AI algorithm.
It means, for example, that a person’s blood test can be analysed by an algorithm, instead of a human health adviser, to provide a treatment recommendation for the patient to take to a doctor.

The former GenderGP worker Dolly Osborne was awarded £84,599 in April 2023 by a judge in an employment tribunal against GenderGP PTE Ltd for disability discrimination.
The payment has not yet been made. Osborne, a wheelchair user, claimed that she was fired after crying and correcting a few spelling mistakes in a document.
Tribunal documents showed that GenderGP did not respond to the claim. Webberley said that GenderGP was not invited to the tribunal.
She said: “GenderGP is too big an organisation for me to be responsible for every single facet of it. Whoever owes her needs to pay it, but I’m not writing the cheque.”

When discussing the effects of puberty blockers on brain maturation — something mentioned in the Cass review — Webberley conceded they may temporarily affect older teens. However, she added: “Permanently? They haven’t got the data on that.”

It's the stat the foxbotherer has been using in his latest grift. No proof, just a 'senior whistleblower' who's unnamed.

If true - then I'd want investigations into whether it's related to lack of puberty blockers, or selling a lie and a suicide myth to children with multiple mental health issues.

https://www.gendergp.com/transgender-suicide-rate-youth-explodes-in-uk/

This came up on a Google search- I actually really hope it's not true but I have seen a figure of 16 suicides quoted before.

Speaking as the mother of a gender dysphoric son - this woman needs to be in prison.

What about if a GP found that a <18 was being taken abroad for surgery? Mastectomy or other?

They know they're obfuscating or they would have specified which hormone.

FFS

There are some errors in the article.

Earlier this year, the High Court was told that GenderGP had prescribed “dangerously high” levels of hormones to a 16-year-old boy that could have resulted in sudden death.

That's not what happened. Dangerously high levels of testosterone were prescribed to a 16-year-old girl.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Approved-Judgment-Re-J-1-May-2024.pdf

Not only did Gender GP prescribe this top-end dosage to a testosterone-
naïve child, but they did so by directing a ‘loading’ (double) dose at the commencement of the treatment. Dr Hewitt advised ‘with confidence’ that ‘there is no professional society of paediatric endocrinologists internationally who would consider this anything other than a highly abnormal and frankly negligent approach’

In October 2023, Dr Hewitt advised that the level of testosterone in the blood was ‘dangerously high’ and that, apart from the potential for adverse long-term consequences of such a level, J was ‘presently at risk of sudden death due to thromboembolic disease’, meaning the potential for the hormone to cause thickening of the blood.

Sadly the FGM legislation does not cover this type of scenario.

Now, as part of its “future-proofed” service, GenderGP has replaced a team of healthcare assistants answering questions with an AI-generated online “knowledge base”.

What could possibly go wrong?

The Times has turned off the comments. I guess they got a bit too good.

To borrow a phrase from Dawn French: “Oh my actual God.”

I am so ashamed of the way medicine has been complicit in this.

After the fact that Webberley thinks it's a good idea to experiment on children, potentially wrecking their lives, without any kind of reliable evidence base, the thing that leaps out from that article is that many of the eyebrow-raising arrangements are there to minimise or eliminate culpability, and thus professional accountability and financial damages:
- GenderGP is registered in Singapore, a country where gay marriage is illegal, and is not registered with England’s Care Quality Commission.
- Webberley said that she was a director of GenderGP and not directly involved in care.
- GenderGP assesses people with gender dysphoria and connects them to doctors outside the UK, in the European Economic Area, for prescriptions.
- GenderGP has ditched health advisers in favour of providing transgender people with “self-service” treatment recommendations using an AI algorithm.
- GenderGP also sends the AI-generated recommendation — which could include information on hormone treatment — to a patient’s GP.
- Webberley said that she could take legal action against the doctor who made the court claim, adding that it was “untrue”. She said they had not been given notice of the court case.
- Now, as part of its “future-proofed” service, GenderGP has replaced a team of healthcare assistants answering questions with an AI-generated online “knowledge base”.
- Tribunal documents showed that GenderGP did not respond to the claim. Webberley said that GenderGP was not invited to the tribunal.

She has her eye firmly on how to walk away from the scandal when it properly explodes.

Thank goodness you have been able to help.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderGP/

An informative subreddit of GenderGP users.

'GenderGP has ditched health advisers in favour of providing transgender people with “self-service” treatment recommendations using an AI algorithm.

It means, for example, that a person’s blood test can be analysed by an algorithm, instead of a human health adviser, to provide a treatment recommendation for the patient to take to a doctor.

Webberley said: “We fed the algorithms the respected clinical guidelines.” It removed the “human interpretation of protocol”, she added.'

I’ve posted before. My son. Early 20s. Sold testosterone blockers and oestrogen after 2 phone calls with these fuckers. Each less than an hour. No medical tests, for example to check existing hormone levels.

I found the medication. TBH I suspect he left them out so I would. He stopped taking them and had only had them for a short time. He’s now finally on the path to having his suspected neurodiversity investigated. The thing that has actually seen him struggling.

I probably can’t post what I think about this woman and the people who support her.

For a long time I have felt that HW does not actually care for the transgender population, she is simply using them to fill her piggy bank.

Admittedly it was a few months ago when I last read the Reddit sub, but there was nothing that made me think that HW had their best interests at heart. Those 10-20 00 emails a day are probably from people trying to get what they have paid for.

This bit too:

When discussing the effects of puberty blockers on brain maturation — something mentioned in the Cass review — Webberley conceded they may temporarily affect older teens. However, she added: “Permanently? They haven’t got the data on that.”

WTAF?! When the NHS advice on puberty blockers said that the impact on the developing teenage brain was "unknown" (wording since removed), this is what prompted my husband and me to say no to our daughter's request for them.

Yet here's Webberley merrily conceding that there may well be temporary effects and she can't rule out permanent damage.

Erm.

Anything else that a doctor says after this regarding any other type of hormonal treatment has got to be taken with the biggest pinch of salt.

"They haven't got the data on that"

What kind of doctor openly admits to prescribing medication where there is no (research) data?!

I thought my jaw was already on the floor. But this is a whole new level.

Holy fuck that's terrifying.

Excellent journalism from the Times- just the facts, interspersed with quotes.

'She described puberty blockers as “the most natural medicine”. Testosterone, when used on people whose testicles don’t work, was the “most natural drug in the world”.

“People are alarmed at the side effects — well, these are the natural hormones we produce every day”, she added.'

JFC

It is.

It's difficult to put myself in the position of someone who isn't already horrified by what's happening to the vulnerable children who are being pulled in to this, but (trying my best to be objective) I think the harm and some of the risks of both puberty blockers and cross-sex are there in relatively plain sight.

I think this article is actually very good - gives her so much rope that she's left there hanging. But one salient omission is the NHSE advice that GPs not share care with GenderGP.

I wonder how GPs would react if they knew child in their care was being fed PBs from overseas by their parents on holiday? Surely immediate SS referral. Wonder if FGM legislation would be relevant?

That woman is a ghoul. Profiteering on the back of vulnerable children. Her and the yeet the teets lady make my skin crawl.

*Should children still be put on that particular medical pathway, then?

“The alternative is saying ‘no’ and then you’ll never have the data,” Webberley said.*

Good grief.