Angela Rayner won't apologise for calling WPUK and LGB Alliance hate groups

To be a liar you have to have thought through what you're talking about in the first place. She clearly hasn't. She's just swallowed 'articles of faith' and ideological dogma whole.

And to be able to think things through you have to have clear definitions of words. If you cannot define a woman then any follwing premise you proffer about women makes absolutely no sense at all.

The answer to " What is a woman" is not : "There are biological women and there are trans women"

Then she says ‘trans women’ too. She can’t help herself.

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Conservatives for Women wrote this today which I agree with:

"We think deals have been done between @UKLabour and the usually very loud TQ lobby groups. Usually they would be shouting from the rooftops about even the very weak support Starmer has shown towards women’s rights. What have they been promised in return for keeping quiet? #GE2024 "

They parrot the same nonsense over and over again, never answering questions and all being as slippery as eels.

Iain Anderson, formerly of Stonewall, as Chair of Trustees. is working with Labour on policy development. This is why Stonewall haven't been screaming and shouting.

Read my post again. I'm very well aware of that.

What do you think 'transitioning' entails?

Very, very few 'transwomen' have had their penises removed. Estimates are around 80-90% of men retain their penis.

All she had to say was, 'I regret saying that'.

I'm sure West Streeting would be available for coaching.

Or if that's too unpalatable, maybe Tony Blair could be prevailed upon to make another of his statesmanlike announcements, and then she could get round it by saying, 'I agree with Tony Blair'.

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She's just doing a 'calm down dear' routine. Vulnerable women whose fears are being stoked by cruel feminists. Hate group is a slur and she should apologise. I have zero respect for her.

She doesn't know her arse from a hole in the road.

The same goes for anyone else who thinks 'some women' have become women by 'transitioning'.

Oh dear God the lack of self awareness from the TWAW pronoun police.

Even if it were true that trans women who have transitioned are women, what about trans women who haven't? What about trans women who are fully intact unaltered men who call themselves women? Angela knows these people exist; she knows most trans women are this type of person. She's a disingenuous liar.

If their tactic is to constantly deflect from the questions, they're soo going to come unstuck.

It doesn't work.

It's the quickest way to look bad. And even the rookiest of rookie journalists can spot it a mile off.

I think with Rayner the question needs to be put about workers rights . Her big thing is workers rights, what protections will women have when changing when getting a GRC is made significantly easier and does she support the NHS nurses who are suing? What about prison guards or police, should they be able to opt out of searching people not of their biological sex even if they have a GRC?

I also heard that. He was clearly desperate to keep to his carefully curated lines rather than speaking from the heart.

Yup, Rayner didn't answer the question(s) re WPUK etc being hate groups AND she tried to splice the word 'biological' into her answer so often without really saying anything of substance that she ended up tripping over her words.

I noticed Kier had the same problem when talking to Jane on BBC 5 Live earlier today; he kept tripping over the word 'biological' and ended up saying 'biological spaces' 😏

She means that speaking about it has caused women to be scarred.

Not the actual intention of letting men into womens spaces, without any discussion or safeguarding, but talking about it.

"We have biological women, and we have trans women. And they’re both women: one is a biological woman through sex, and one is a trans woman who has transitioned. Most of the public can get that.”

Rayner, April 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2024/mar/23/angela-rayner-roots-rough-edges-ready-for-power

She's a true believer in the sexist ideology of men women and she's a politician so really it is not clear at all.

I'm not scared of language, I'm scared of men, however they identify, coming into my space. I thanks the Janes and the Joannes for speaking up.

I don't believe her. Because she's also said that tw rights are women's rights.

She's either hopelessly captured (and let's not forget the offer to save Lily Madigan a place on the HoC benches despite the little twat showing not one scintilla of talent or intelligence), thick as mince, or both.

She shouldn't be anywhere near power.

She makes it clear she means biological women

Keep digging Ange........

"And I want to say to the transgender community, who some of them are vulnerable and scared as well, that the Labour Party will support and protect you."

Sounds lovely on the face of it but this is just a euphemism for letting males use any female space they want.