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Arrogantly complacent leaflet from Labour written as though Starmer is running for President

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IwantToRetire · 28/06/2024 19:03

So far I have only had one leaflet re GE. It was from Tory candidate who set out how they thought they could represent the constituency.

But today I got a hand delivered (but addressed to me) a leaflet about voting fot Starmer.

Nothing why I should vote for the Labour candidate.

Nothing about the constituency, nothing about the work the candidate (former MP) has done locally.

Just a long list of Starmer's Labour superiority over the Tories, and how saint Starmer has saved the Labour party.

And then loathsome US style garbage about "service" and country.

It is obviously a standard leaflet that they have just mail merged the candidate's name and constituency name into, although stuck to the safe option of referring to the candidate as they.

Not sure who this is meant to appeal to. Or are they assuming everyone is on social media and geting information elsewhere. Not heard of any hustings.

I had heard that Labour had got trillions more donations than Tories for their election campaign, and cant think why they have used this to churn out such a non credible "why you should vote for me" leafleting.

Not forgetting I dispise him anyway, but genuinely cant think who thought this was a way to encourage people to vote for them.

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Againname · 28/06/2024 20:10

Maybe in fact for newer residents it works. They are more likely to know about Starmer than someone local.

But surely that's one of the main reasons for a leaflet? To let the potential voter know about their local candidate (whichever party)?

Lots of MPs are standing down in this election so many people including in constituencies with less transient population won't know their candidates. The leaflets are a chance for candidates to tell voters about themselves and what they'd offer the local community.

WickedSerious · 28/06/2024 20:07

IwantToRetire · 28/06/2024 20:03

For the 2 others (or was it 3?) PP who say they or one of their children got a similar leaflet what was their response?

Maybe in fact for newer residents it works. They are more likely to know about Starmer than someone local.

Its just feels like apart from on here (and hysterical reporting on tv news) I feel there is an information vaccuum.

But maybe that's because I am used to something different, and this is an approach that will work with younger voters?

Hmm

My son dropped it straight in the recycling bin.

feellikeanalien · 28/06/2024 20:04

I've probably had about six leaflets from Labour. Several general ones and a couple addressed to me personally from Kier Starmer and from Rachel Reeves. My MP is Tory and Labour look to be the only ones likely to unseat him. I've also had leaflets from Lib Dems, Tories, Greens, SDP and ADF. No door knockers though.

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IwantToRetire · 28/06/2024 20:03

For the 2 others (or was it 3?) PP who say they or one of their children got a similar leaflet what was their response?

Maybe in fact for newer residents it works. They are more likely to know about Starmer than someone local.

Its just feels like apart from on here (and hysterical reporting on tv news) I feel there is an information vaccuum.

But maybe that's because I am used to something different, and this is an approach that will work with younger voters?

Hmm
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Mumoftwo1316 · 28/06/2024 20:00

I wonder if you're in my constituency, op. I got the same thing and I'm baffled.

I'm a floating voter and I'd be inclined to vote tory in general [this time I mean - I've previously voted labour] but my Labour mp in my constituency seems really sound and she has done a lot of good work for children and families, which is the main thing i care about. So I'm a bit torn but will try and "vote for the candidate not the party".

Hence my amazement when I got this silly leaflet that, as you say, just mail merged the candidate's name on,but was all about Starmer. Not one word about the MP's great work in the area and on policy. I'm no Starmer fan. So it's gone towards putting me off and I'm undecided all over again.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/06/2024 19:58

WickedSerious · 28/06/2024 19:39

My son got one yesterday.

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We are in London and DS got one too (first time voter).

Againname · 28/06/2024 19:57

Don't know about them bothering in swing constituencies.

I'm in one. Conservative but might go Labour. No door knockers and so far no leaflets except one from the Conservative candidate. Nothing from Labour, or any of the other party candidates.

Bit pissed off actually. Feels like none of the candidates are that bothered about my constituency. Despite it apparently being a marginal seat this time.

I agree with you btw @IwantToRetire I wouldn't be impressed with the leaflet you had. But then I like to consider voting for a good constituency MP (regardless of their party) because an MP who's there for their local constituents is as important as national party imo (especially valuable, I'd say, in an area like yours where local residents are being forced out).

northstars · 28/06/2024 19:51

Temporaryanonymity · 28/06/2024 19:29

That’s not how the Labour leaflets work in my constituency. Where are you? I’ve been campaigning in general elections since forever and Labour don’t send out generic leaflets like the one you describe.

I’m in SE London and have got a couple of these in the mail too. The MP candidate’s name was there in smaller print, but it was mostly Starmer.

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IwantToRetire · 28/06/2024 19:47

Temporaryanonymity · 28/06/2024 19:29

That’s not how the Labour leaflets work in my constituency. Where are you? I’ve been campaigning in general elections since forever and Labour don’t send out generic leaflets like the one you describe.

Inner London. Rock solid labour.

Maybe they (you?) only bother in possible swing constituencies.

But did wonder how this type of leafleting would work with those new to the area. (Quite a lot of incomers, as many former residents being pushed out.)

And also on reflection sad that the former MP has apparently accepted this as the way to reach out to voters.

I thought her better than that.

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WickedSerious · 28/06/2024 19:39

Temporaryanonymity · 28/06/2024 19:29

That’s not how the Labour leaflets work in my constituency. Where are you? I’ve been campaigning in general elections since forever and Labour don’t send out generic leaflets like the one you describe.

My son got one yesterday.

Temporaryanonymity · 28/06/2024 19:29

That’s not how the Labour leaflets work in my constituency. Where are you? I’ve been campaigning in general elections since forever and Labour don’t send out generic leaflets like the one you describe.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 19:27

Every local election the Lib Dems (in power for the last two elections) write to everyone saying 'Thank you for voting for us.' I just write 'I didn't' and send it back.

UtterlyOtterly · 28/06/2024 19:24

I am convinced the vast majority of people who will vote Labour are doing so to vote the Tories out. It is not that they want KS in power.

Self congratulatory leaflets will only make people feel less inclined to vote for the puffed up person.

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IwantToRetire · 28/06/2024 19:17

Well at least he was talking about himself and the what he said he had done for the constituency.

This leaflet had nothing about the area and issue.

Was just about Saint Starmer.

Of course it may be that the Labour candidate is a woman, and Starmer assumes she will need his support to reassure us we should vote for her.

And of course because what we really want is for him to be "Our Leader".

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 19:11

Vince Cable used to be my MP and periodically we'd get a two page letter telling us how wonderful he was and how much he'd done for the constituency. I didn't vote for him out of sheer irritation at the self-regard of the man.