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David Lammy

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DomingoinLittleOakley · 28/06/2024 18:24

Someone wasn't paying attention in biology class.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 17:09

Dumbo12 · 03/07/2024 17:01

Johnson has the gravitas of a clowns red nose!!!!!!!

You can keep saying that...but he did have some state craft, and Zelensky certainly seemed to respect him.

Boris Johnson comes from an international family...and his great uncle was a political activist in Ottoman Turkey - for which he was murdered.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 17:02

Well, he does speak Russian, which is pretty impressive

Dumbo12 · 03/07/2024 17:01

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 16:58

Though, Boris Johnson, love him or loathe him did have some gravitas on the international stage...and was a big supporter of Zelensky...who certainly seemed to rate him.

Seriously, where is the gravitas on the Labour front bench - maybe apart from Rachel Reeves?

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Johnson has the gravitas of a clowns red nose!!!!!!!

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 16:58

Dumbo12 · 03/07/2024 16:31

Well to be fair the tories have lasted all this time on the least talented bubch anyone has ever seen.

Though, Boris Johnson, love him or loathe him did have some gravitas on the international stage...and was a big supporter of Zelensky...who certainly seemed to rate him.

Seriously, where is the gravitas on the Labour front bench - maybe apart from Rachel Reeves?

duc748 · 03/07/2024 16:54

Piece by Hannah Barnes in the same edition saying "Starmer must expect that JKR is right: Labour is failing women". Andrew Marr, of course, finds this of piffling importance compared to the big grown-up issues that Starmer and his ministers will have to grapple with.

Cooper77 · 03/07/2024 16:49

Didn’t David Lammy claim Britain fought Hitler to save the EU?

Dumbo12 · 03/07/2024 16:31

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 16:19

I'm struggling..........There doesn't seem to be much genuine talent, nor gravitas....very thin on the ground.

Well to be fair the tories have lasted all this time on the least talented bubch anyone has ever seen.

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 16:19

UpThePankhurst · 03/07/2024 16:18

Who does he have that's any better? Seriously?

I'm struggling..........There doesn't seem to be much genuine talent, nor gravitas....very thin on the ground.

UpThePankhurst · 03/07/2024 16:18

Who does he have that's any better? Seriously?

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 16:17

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/07/2024 16:14

The idea of David Lammy as foreign minister with the world the way it is at present is, frankly, deeply concerning.

Completely agree.

He's not going to impress any foreign leaders or their counterparts, by banging on about being the decendent of slaves, as a reason not to engage with challenging issues.

i wonder if Starmer will do a re-shuffle or has he said ministers will keep their current roles?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/07/2024 16:14

The idea of David Lammy as foreign minister with the world the way it is at present is, frankly, deeply concerning.

Completely agree.

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 16:13

Lammy has displayed very poor judgement, and a volatile temper. He's not going to take well to being grilled at weekly PM's questions.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 15:24

What with this, and Rayner doubling down on WPUK and AllianceLGB being hate groups, who on earth would vote Labour? I mean, they're not even pretending, are they?

Rightsraptor · 03/07/2024 15:07

In the clip, Lammy says the subject of our rights never comes up on the door step. Ever.

Are there any Tottenham voters on here who could put him right on that, in a very embarrassingly public manner if at all possible?

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/07/2024 14:59

The idea of David Lammy as foreign minister with the world the way it is at present is, frankly, deeply concerning.

maltravers · 03/07/2024 14:53

From the clip he comes across as a bully and a misogynist. How dare you question me in that way woman journalist…

Melroses · 03/07/2024 14:41

viques · 03/07/2024 14:25

If Lammy identifies as a feminist does that mean Farage identifies as Gandhi?

As long as he is really sincere 👍

viques · 03/07/2024 14:25

Melroses · 03/07/2024 14:16

David Lammy has identified himself as a Feminist, doncha know!

Do stand down. Everything he says is Right and Right for Women.

If Lammy identifies as a feminist does that mean Farage identifies as Gandhi?

lcakethereforeIam · 03/07/2024 14:24

If anyone is interested this is the article I mentioned upthread, although I misremembered it was in the New Statesman not the Times

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2024/06/david-lammy-doctrine-interview-jason-cowley

https://archive.ph/DNAkA w-all about me...n

I didn't even see any mentions of his mum. His dad, who died a homeless alcoholic after abandoning his family when Lammy was twelve, but not his mum who (unless I'm seriously missing something) must have really stepped up.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 03/07/2024 14:21

If it is very old, then Lammysaurus can always tell us he no longer thinks this, and apologise etc

<waits>

UpThePankhurst · 03/07/2024 14:20

UpThePankhurst · 03/07/2024 14:13

Bloody hell that man is a full on raging misogynist!

Wtf is the matter with the Labour party?! Are they honestly unaware of the optics of a man frothing about how dare women question him about women's rights like that? They must be or they'd have muzzled him until Friday.

The other worse option is that he and Starmer are not the only ones and the whole bloody party is full of them, and they think this is how things should be!

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Ah, sorry to quote myself, but having found the article on archive, I see that they weren't quite gormless enough to have given an interview this awful this week, and it's JKR raising awareness.

Well done Jo, yet again.

UpThePankhurst · 03/07/2024 14:16

Daddy knows best.

Melroses · 03/07/2024 14:16

David Lammy has identified himself as a Feminist, doncha know!

Do stand down. Everything he says is Right and Right for Women.

UpThePankhurst · 03/07/2024 14:13

Bloody hell that man is a full on raging misogynist!

Wtf is the matter with the Labour party?! Are they honestly unaware of the optics of a man frothing about how dare women question him about women's rights like that? They must be or they'd have muzzled him until Friday.

The other worse option is that he and Starmer are not the only ones and the whole bloody party is full of them, and they think this is how things should be!

RoyalCorgi · 03/07/2024 13:58

duc748 · 03/07/2024 13:54

Can't see the comments, but Jeez, that hectoring tone! "You could have asked me about this, or that"! What an arsehole!

Yes. How dare the interviewer ask him about the rights of 50% of the population? Obviously women as a group are a complete irrelevance.

I am distinctly unimpressed by the "as the descendant of enslaved people" line. So what? Most of my ancestors had really shit lives. My grandmothers were born at a time when women didn't have the vote. It doesn't mean I can go round lecturing black people, for example, and telling them that their rights don't matter.

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