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Trans women have a cervix, who knew?

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HellsBells67 · 28/06/2024 15:23

I mean, at this stage of the game, anyone voting for this shower has a death wish. https://x.com/LBC/status/1443125834626260993

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Vikina · 28/06/2024 17:46

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 28/06/2024 16:55

Better than Health Secretary I suppose

Thank you for making me laugh after a tough day!

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 17:22

BackToLurk · 28/06/2024 16:25

You don't care that legislators and future government ministers are so seriously ill-informed? You don't care that people will be making laws based on false premises? OK

Is he personally to be health minister?

LarkLane · 28/06/2024 16:58

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 28/06/2024 16:55

Better than Health Secretary I suppose

Well that's just done marvels for my hypertension.

happinessischocolate · 28/06/2024 16:57

Vikina · 28/06/2024 16:45

David Lammy is stupid. You only have to watch his woeful performance on Mastermind.

What's worrying is that this time next week he could be our Foreign Secretary. We'll be a laughing stock.

I think you'll find we're a laughing stock already

Chersfrozenface · 28/06/2024 16:56

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 28/06/2024 16:55

Better than Health Secretary I suppose

Oh God, don't go giving them ideas!

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 28/06/2024 16:55

Better than Health Secretary I suppose

LarkLane · 28/06/2024 16:51

Yes, I heard that duc748 there's also a rumour that Starmer refused to confirm that Lammy would be Foreign Secretary.

Shortshriftandlethal · 28/06/2024 16:51

TooTiredToType77 · 28/06/2024 15:46

Could it be that's because transman have a cervix? Totally GC here but that's my take on it

No! At the time Lammy said he thought a cervix was " something that you could get with some surgery". It is amazing how many men have no clue what the cervix is.

JellySaurus · 28/06/2024 16:51

Hey, Dave, do transmen have prostates?

duc748 · 28/06/2024 16:49

I was reading something about Lammy the other day. Probably in one of Andrew Marr's awful Starmer puff-pieces in the NS. Anyway, apparently he's been doing important, grown-up stuff like schmoozing Republicans in the US prior to an expected Trump administration. Actually, for stupidity and wilful ignorance, he's probably got more in common with the Trumpists than I first thought, come to think about it!

Vikina · 28/06/2024 16:45

David Lammy is stupid. You only have to watch his woeful performance on Mastermind.

What's worrying is that this time next week he could be our Foreign Secretary. We'll be a laughing stock.

Chersfrozenface · 28/06/2024 16:41

Miyagi99 · 28/06/2024 16:32

Wow!

David Lammy's actual words
""I don't know if it's transphobic but it's not accurate, it's probably the case that trans women don't have ovaries but a cervix is something that .. I understand that a cervix is something you can have after various procedures, hormone treatments and all the rest of it."

"probably the case that trans women don't have ovaries" is a classic on its own - no, it's definitely the case that they don't have ovaries.

As for the cervix bit, as you say, wow!

Miyagi99 · 28/06/2024 16:32

JurassicClark · 28/06/2024 15:49

Nope, the idiot thought there were hormones transwomen could take that could grow one or something (he expanded on it, but I forget all the nonsense specifics)

Wow!

Miyagi99 · 28/06/2024 16:31

TooTiredToType77 · 28/06/2024 15:46

Could it be that's because transman have a cervix? Totally GC here but that's my take on it

Yeah, that’s what I took from it.

ChishiyaBat · 28/06/2024 16:28

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:22

Ok fine but still - seriously so what. Someone said something wrong 3 years ago. They thought you could create a cervix, you can't. Why should I care.

Just because it was 3 years ago it doesn't make it any less stupid. If you don't care why are you here arguing about it?

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:27

BackToLurk · 28/06/2024 16:24

How is saying some transwomen have cervices 'pro-trans' as oppose to just 'wrong'. Is the only way to be pro-trans to lie or to be ignorant?

Is this a trick question? I actually don't know what the answer is. I guess it's possible that the only way to be pro-trans is through ignorance.

That particular interview though was pro-trans because it was (as far as I can tell) trying to say that trans women are "really" women (and that they have one of the features of Really Women, i.e.Cervix).

BackToLurk · 28/06/2024 16:25

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:22

Ok fine but still - seriously so what. Someone said something wrong 3 years ago. They thought you could create a cervix, you can't. Why should I care.

You don't care that legislators and future government ministers are so seriously ill-informed? You don't care that people will be making laws based on false premises? OK

BackToLurk · 28/06/2024 16:24

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:13

Honestly, who cares? Why does someone start a thread everytime someone in the world says something pro-trans.

They probably mean because transmen have a cervix.

Edit: didn't even realise it was an old clip. Seriously, people need to get over the idea that in the big wide world, other people think things.

Edited

How is saying some transwomen have cervices 'pro-trans' as oppose to just 'wrong'. Is the only way to be pro-trans to lie or to be ignorant?

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:22

Chersfrozenface · 28/06/2024 16:20

No, he doesn't mean that.

They were discussing transwomen, not transmen.

Nick Ferrari asked, "Is It transphobic to say only women can have a cervix?"

David Lammy replied: "I don't know if it's transphobic but it's not accurate, it's probably the case that trans women don't have ovaries but a cervix is something that .. I understand that a cervix is something you can have after various procedures, hormone treatments and all the rest of it."

Which is nonsense. Only a woman can have a cervix, it being the narrow tube between the womb and the vagina.

Transwomen cannot possibly have one, being male and therefore without female reproductive organs.

Mammalian biology 101.

Ok fine but still - seriously so what. Someone said something wrong 3 years ago. They thought you could create a cervix, you can't. Why should I care.

Chersfrozenface · 28/06/2024 16:20

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:13

Honestly, who cares? Why does someone start a thread everytime someone in the world says something pro-trans.

They probably mean because transmen have a cervix.

Edit: didn't even realise it was an old clip. Seriously, people need to get over the idea that in the big wide world, other people think things.

Edited

No, he doesn't mean that.

They were discussing transwomen, not transmen.

Nick Ferrari asked, "Is It transphobic to say only women can have a cervix?"

David Lammy replied: "I don't know if it's transphobic but it's not accurate, it's probably the case that trans women don't have ovaries but a cervix is something that .. I understand that a cervix is something you can have after various procedures, hormone treatments and all the rest of it."

Which is nonsense. Only a woman can have a cervix, it being the narrow tube between the womb and the vagina.

Transwomen cannot possibly have one, being male and therefore without female reproductive organs.

Mammalian biology 101.

Vikina · 28/06/2024 16:18

Lammy has been keeping a very low profile during this election campaign. I suspect they're hoping we'll forget about him

TWETMIRF · 28/06/2024 16:16

No he doesn't, he said transwomen don't have ovaries but can have a cervix with medical intervention

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 28/06/2024 16:13

Honestly, who cares? Why does someone start a thread everytime someone in the world says something pro-trans.

They probably mean because transmen have a cervix.

Edit: didn't even realise it was an old clip. Seriously, people need to get over the idea that in the big wide world, other people think things.

WhereAreWeNow · 28/06/2024 16:12

That's from 2021. It was discussed at length on MN at the time. It was around the same time that Lammy called us dinosaurs IIRC. Not sure why it's being shared again now.

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